IDBillzFan Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 http://www.mediaite.com/online/tow-trucking-trump-supporter-refuses-service-to-disabled-bernie-fan-stranded-on-highway/ Stay classy Trumpettes. He thinks the Lord came over him and told him to ditch the woman and her car? The DNC has to be licking their chops at what is about to unfold for the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 http://www.mediaite.com/online/tow-trucking-trump-supporter-refuses-service-to-disabled-bernie-fan-stranded-on-highway/ Stay classy Trumpettes. Good thing she wasn't a lesbian, or he'd be arrested for a federal hate crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Shocking no one: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-mnuchin-idUSKCN0XW1LY?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Shocking no one: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-mnuchin-idUSKCN0XW1LY?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link lol Yeah let's act like it's news that a Republican has shown allegiance to leftist causes by their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Three things*: 31% of the electorate is now minority, up from 29% in 2012 Of the 11 million new voters since 2012, 7.5 million are either black, hispanic or Asian Can't remember the number of deaths since 2012, but of them, something like 76% were white * Doing this from memory. It was on Rachael Maddow last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Again, nobody is disagreeing with the phenomenon. What's confounding is that people picked Trump as that agent of change. But if you actually take time to listen to what he says and what he stands for, he's a hell of a lot closer to Obama than he is to Reagan. He's just blustering his way to the top, Yet once he gets there, DC is going to get a hell of a lot bigger and more powerful. Listen to the GOP establishment's criticism. They're not afraid of getting tossed out of DC. They're afraid that liberals will run the roost whether Hillary or Trump sits in the White House. Don't believe me? Always follow the money You may well be right about everything you're saying. My original point was simply that the disconnect between the party leadership and the rank & file across the nation is what set the stage for Trump to gain the nomination, and that things might have been different had the party leaders paid closer attention to the people who put them in Washington in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 You may well be right about everything you're saying. My original point was simply that the disconnect between the party leadership and the rank & file across the nation is what set the stage for Trump to gain the nomination, and that things might have been different had the party leaders paid closer attention to the people who put them in Washington in the first place. I disagree. What set the stage for Trump was the very short attention spans by the average voter. It started with the Bush bad syndrome and followed on to Obama and has hit full peak with Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 You may well be right about everything you're saying. My original point was simply that the disconnect between the party leadership and the rank & file across the nation is what set the stage for Trump to gain the nomination, and that things might have been different had the party leaders paid closer attention to the people who put them in Washington in the first place. what set the stage was citizens united. interestingly, I don't hear trump supporters screaming for campaign finance reform but that is the bedrock, fundamental change required to alleviate the proble you describe. Bernie talks more about this than all the other candidates combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I disagree. What set the stage for Trump was the very short attention spans by the average voter. It started with the Bush bad syndrome and followed on to Obama and has hit full peak with Trump. what set the stage was citizens united. interestingly, I don't hear trump supporters screaming for campaign finance reform but that is the bedrock, fundamental change required to alleviate the proble you describe. Bernie talks more about this than all the other candidates combined. Then we will agree to disagree. I don't have a horse in this race and I don't support anybody. I'm just calling it as I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 what set the stage was citizens united. interestingly, I don't hear trump supporters screaming for campaign finance reform but that is the bedrock, fundamental change required to alleviate the proble you describe. Bernie talks more about this than all the other candidates combined. Wrong, again. The Tea Party movement preceded the Citizens United ruling. The Tea Party ideals are in contrast with the Republican party establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 what set the stage was citizens united. interestingly, I don't hear trump supporters screaming for campaign finance reform but that is the bedrock, fundamental change required to alleviate the proble you describe. Bernie talks more about this than all the other candidates combined. This is crazy. How many times does it need to be said that Citizens United helps the established candidates? How can you still use CU as the example when 2 of 3 remaining candidates got there 100% based on grassroots support and virtually no big ticket funding? Keep repeating a lie long enough, it will become true, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Then we will agree to disagree. I don't have a horse in this race and I don't support anybody. I'm just calling it as I see it. so you disagree that campaign finance laws are an important factor in " party leaders paid closer attention to the people who put them in Washington in the first place"? or by "the people" were you referring to superpacs and corporations? This is crazy. How many times does it need to be said that Citizens United helps the established candidates? How can you still use CU as the example when 2 of 3 remaining candidates got there 100% based on grassroots support and virtually no big ticket funding? Keep repeating a lie long enough, it will become true, right? the fact that they have calmost exclusively grassroots support is a large part of their appeal...which is directly attributable to CU and Buckley. nuch of their appeal is due to backlash against the type of candidate CU and Buckley give advantages to. Edited May 6, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Three things*: 31% of the electorate is now minority, up from 29% in 2012 Of the 11 million new voters since 2012, 7.5 million are either black, hispanic or Asian Can't remember the number of deaths since 2012, but of them, something like 76% were white * Doing this from memory. It was on Rachael Maddow last night. And there are about 8 million more Americans excersisng their 2nd aammendment right and have their conceal carry permits. You think they are going to vote for hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 so you disagree that campaign finance laws are an important factor in " party leaders paid closer attention to the people in Washington in the first place"? or by "the people" were you referring to superpacs and corporations? the fact that they have calmost exclusively grassroots support is a large part of their appeal...which is directly attributable to CU and Buckley. nuch of their appeal is due to backlash against the type of candidate CU and Buckley give advantages to. What kind of logic is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 so you disagree that campaign finance laws are an important factor in " party leaders paid closer attention to the people in Washington in the first place"? or by "the people" were you referring to superpacs and corporations? I wasn't speaking broadly, just sharing my opinion on how Trump gained the nomination, and what I believe the Republican party did to cause that to happen. Citizens United doesn't factor into my observation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Then we will agree to disagree. I don't have a horse in this race and I don't support anybody. I'm just calling it as I see it. Since when do we agree to disagree on PPP? Are you new here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Since when do we agree to disagree on PPP? Are you new here? The irony is that I'm not even sure how to reply to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The irony is that I'm not even sure how to reply to that. Just don't go full gatorman please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The irony is that I'm not even sure how to reply to that. Tell him to !@#$ off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 lol Yeah let's act like it's news that a Republican has shown allegiance to leftist causes by their actions. ...What? This is crazy. How many times does it need to be said that Citizens United helps the established candidates? How can you still use CU as the example when 2 of 3 remaining candidates got there 100% based on grassroots support and virtually no big ticket funding? Keep repeating a lie long enough, it will become true, right? :LOL: Yet, the candidate the money that owns the government wants to win and who was most helped by CU is conveniently left out of your narrative. If you keep ignoring the reality smacking you in the face long enough... it'll still be reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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