truth on hold Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I'd want Kaepernick. Here's my view per division and reasons why AFC East We'd only want Brady and he won't be available. North Flacco, ben, dalton ....none will be available South Luck ...won't be available. West Manning might be available but he's ready for the glue factory NFC East Outside chance at Romo being available (depending who they draft), but he may not be worth it given age and injury history RG3 will be available...id be interested on the right terms. Looked better in the pocket than Taylor. Bradford could be available, and might be worth it on right terms. North Cutler will be, not a fan but on right terms why not? Stafford some say will be available, but I highly doubt it. If by chance he were I'd be on it South Like stafford some say brees could be available, I highly doubt it. He's old but on right terms why not? West Foles? This would be his 3rd team in as many years, no thanks. Kaepernick likely on the block. I'd be on it. In fact all things considered ....cost, age, potential...that's who I'd prioritize Edited December 3, 2015 by JTSP
GunnerBill Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 No thanks to Kaep. If he is available as a FA I'd bring Bradford in for a look as a vet but I doubt he beats Tyrod out. Cutler I don't think is gonna be available to be honest. I think he is growing on Fox and Gase. If Brees or Stafford become FAs you have to do whatever you can.
K D Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Tyrod is their guy. Anyone they bring in would be in a backup role. You guys are dreaming
BringBackFergy Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Look what Jim Schwartz did with Matt Stafford. A gunslinger. I'd consider it.
Beef Jerky Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 If you want Kaep then I definitely don't want him. Would rather draft a QB to backup Taylor.
Alphadawg7 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Anyone who thinks anyone other than Taylor will be the starting QB next year is absolutely delusional. Has he been all world, of course not, but its also been his first 10 games of his career. 10 games in which he's played hurt...10 games in which he has seen MOST of the talent around him hurt for large parts of the season. 10 games in which his OL has been banged up and questionable. Yet this kid has compiled a great season considering all the adversity he's faced in his first year starting, his first year in a new system, and all the injury issues that has surrounded this franchise. Anyone around here delusional enough to have expected the kid to read the field perfectly and play like a 10 year vet needs to forever stop evaluating QB's. This is his FIRST season under live NFL action... HOW ABOUT WE TRY AND DEVELOP A PROMISING PROSPECT rather than dump him for a failed retread QB that you would eventually just also continuously complain about after campaigning to go get him. Bringing in another QB talent is always a good thing, but searching the scrap heap for a better option than Taylor is absurd. The kid has flat out earned the opportunity to be the starting QB this year and next IMO given what he's done given the adversity that has hit this team and offense this year. Now, if he tanks the rest of the season, I can see the conversation being different, but this kid has done enough thus far to be the guy in the near future. Edited December 3, 2015 by Alphadawg7
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 You don't know what you're talking about. The primary reason the Redskins want to get rid of Griffin is can't adjust to being a pocket passer. Kaepernick? Taylor has the 5th best quarterback rating in the NFL as of this week. And he's still learning. Bradford is always injured. It started at Oklahoma and has never ended.
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I would like to continue developing Taylor and draft a QB fairly high as well. Taylor is still learning but I'm a fan. Would like another QB with potential in the pipeline as well if there is one they like. Edited December 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio
prissythecat Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 You don't know what you're talking about. The primary reason the Redskins want to get rid of Griffin is can't adjust to being a pocket passer. Kaepernick? Taylor has the 5th best quarterback rating in the NFL as of this week. And he's still learning. Bradford is always injured. It started at Oklahoma and has never ended. I'd want Kaepernick. Here's my view per division and reasons why AFC East We'd only want Brady and he won't be available. North Flacco, ben, dalton ....none will be available South Luck ...won't be available. West Manning might be available but he's ready for the glue factory NFC East Outside chance at Romo being available (depending who they draft), but he may not be worth it given age and injury history RG3 will be available...id be interested on the right terms. Looked better in the pocket than Taylor. Bradford could be available, and might be worth it on right terms. North Cutler will be, not a fan but on right terms why not? Stafford some say will be available, but I highly doubt it. If by chance he were I'd be on it South Like stafford some say brees could be available, I highly doubt it. He's old but on right terms why not? West Foles? This would be his 3rd team in as many years, no thanks. Kaepernick likely on the block. I'd be on it. In fact all things considered ....cost, age, potential...that's who I'd prioritize You don't know what you're talking about.... Am not sure one can find a post from the OP that disproves your statement .
Charles Romes Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 No one will be available that is clearly a better option than Tyrod. Unless he is our first round draft choice.
truth on hold Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) You don't know what you're talking about. The primary reason the Redskins want to get rid of Griffin is can't adjust to being a pocket passer. Kaepernick? Taylor has the 5th best quarterback rating in the NFL as of this week. And he's still learning. Bradford is always injured. It started at Oklahoma and has never ended. I dont place much stock in those ratings, especially when you see some of the true elites behind him. I'd take Kaepernick over TT in a heart beat, on what I anticipate will be decent terms next season. CK has a stronger arm, is tall and can see the entire field, and he's even a better runner (at least he can take a defender on for that extra yard when he needs it.) Kaepernick took a team deep in the playoffs, and was just one catch away from a super bowl victory (reality that should have been PI). SF has turned into a %@$ show that I'm not sure how anyone could thrive in. Guy definitely deserves a 2nd chance somewhere else Edited December 3, 2015 by JTSP
BarleyNY Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Tyrod is their guy. Anyone they bring in would be in a backup role. You guys are dreaming Tyrod was the best they could find last year. If they can find better next season they'll try to get it. If not, they'll be looking for competition or a back up.
bigK14094 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 RG3 is more interested in his personal "franchaise" than in football. (more Subway commercials etc) He is bad attitude personified......and the Bills don't need that kind of help. Kap...well, if SF doesn't want him after having him for 4 years.....I would say we should also pass. I think TT might be better, has a decent arm, and is dangerous on the run. Of course, TT is more brittle than Kap, but all QB's get hurt some...even Brady lost most of one season. Need to run out the string on TT to see if he progresses.....we know EJ has not, lets see if TT can/ Four years behind Flacco brought maturity and leadership capabiity, but little if any time on the field, so TT is really a rookie this year in terms of playing a lot. A second year in the same system...can help everybody...will the Bills ever learn the value of continutiy in coaching? Maybe......
truth on hold Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) RG3 is more interested in his personal "franchaise" than in football. (more Subway commercials etc) He is bad attitude personified......and the Bills don't need that kind of help. Kap...well, if SF doesn't want him after having him for 4 years.....I would say we should also pass. I think TT might be better, has a decent arm, and is dangerous on the run. Of course, TT is more brittle than Kap, but all QB's get hurt some...even Brady lost most of one season. Need to run out the string on TT to see if he progresses.....we know EJ has not, lets see if TT can/ Four years behind Flacco brought maturity and leadership capabiity, but little if any time on the field, so TT is really a rookie this year in terms of playing a lot. A second year in the same system...can help everybody...will the Bills ever learn the value of continutiy in coaching? Maybe...... you mean like how Gailey and Nix "put the ball in Fitz hands" for 4 losing seasons. How about when a guy doesnt have it, we cut our losses? BTW bringing in someone new doesn't mean releasing the coveted Tyrod, it's just getting some competition in here. New Vet + TT + Rookie ... works for me Edited December 3, 2015 by JTSP
BobbyC81 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 I'd take Kaepernick over TT in a heart beat, on what I anticipate will be decent terms next season. CK has a stronger arm, is tall and can see the entire field, and he's even a better runner (at least he can take a defender on for that extra yard when he needs it.) Kaepernick took a team deep in the playoffs, and was just one catch away from a super bowl victory (reality that should have been PI). SF has turned into a %@$ show that I'm not sure how anyone could thrive in. Guy definitely deserves a 2nd chance somewhere else If they could get him cheap, it wouldn't hurt to see if he can rebound after reuniting with Roman. Kaep has lots of faults though. When he is running free and throwing on rollouts he can look great. When a defense or his coaches force him to stay in the pocket he is horrible because he can't read defenses or find a 2nd option when his 1st option is covered. After throwing 2 pick sixes in a game on sideline patterns earlier this year, it got in his head and he became reluctant to throw towards the sideline or when he did he threw it short so it couldn't get picked. I don't know if he'd be doing any better if still playing for Harbaugh and Roman because he showed signs of regression last season but he sure has lost most of his confidence playing for the clowns they have coaching this year.
Rob's House Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 I wouldn't trade a warm cup of piss for Colin Kaepernick.
GoBills! Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Tyrod isn't a 16 games a year guy which makes it hard for him to be a franchise guy, We all know the risk of a running QB. Russel Wilson is a freak of an athlete that has a great D behind him to put him in winning situations. I thought for sure Wilson would fall of this year as more teams can adapt to his style but he keeps progressing.I personally would chase Drew Brees if available on a nice new 2-3 year deal. Highly durable since 2004, great pocket passer. Excellent leader. We are in a win now, our D will only have maybe 2 years left with major core before high profile guys head to FA or are cut.I like Tyrod but he is the kind of inconsistent QB that frustrates WR, TE .. he has great stats, I don't give him slack or rookie status as anyone who can sit behind a top 10 QB for 5 years should be game ready. His TD to INT ratio is great I just don't think he sees the field very well or reads the D correctly to find the best option in the first 2-3 seconds. RG3 is more interested in his personal "franchaise" than in football. (more Subway commercials etc) He is bad attitude personified......and the Bills don't need that kind of help. Kap...well, if SF doesn't want him after having him for 4 years.....I would say we should also pass. I think TT might be better, has a decent arm, and is dangerous on the run. Of course, TT is more brittle than Kap, but all QB's get hurt some...even Brady lost most of one season. Need to run out the string on TT to see if he progresses.....we know EJ has not, lets see if TT can/ Four years behind Flacco brought maturity and leadership capabiity, but little if any time on the field, so TT is really a rookie this year in terms of playing a lot. A second year in the same system...can help everybody...will the Bills ever learn the value of continutiy in coaching? Maybe......
CardinalScotts Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 there is nothing wrong with tyrod why would we look at other qb's? I dont get this board a lot of times...I think it's a natural reaction we look to free agency and the draft.
GoBills! Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 there is nothing wrong with tyrod why would we look at other qb's? I dont get this board a lot of times...I think it's a natural reaction we look to free agency and the draft. You always look to better yourself. Do you think Tyrod can last 16 games a year for the next 4-5 years ? I would bet anything he can't.....he is doing great durabilty and consistency during the game are my concerns..again I don't look at him as a rookie..
FireChan Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Anyone who thinks anyone other than Taylor will be the starting QB next year is absolutely delusional. Has he been all world, of course not, but its also been his first 10 games of his career. 10 games in which he's played hurt...10 games in which he has seen MOST of the talent around him hurt for large parts of the season. 10 games in which his OL has been banged up and questionable. Yet this kid has compiled a great season considering all the adversity he's faced in his first year starting, his first year in a new system, and all the injury issues that has surrounded this franchise. Anyone around here delusional enough to have expected the kid to read the field perfectly and play like a 10 year vet needs to forever stop evaluating QB's. This is his FIRST season under live NFL action... HOW ABOUT WE TRY AND DEVELOP A PROMISING PROSPECT rather than dump him for a failed retread QB that you would eventually just also continuously complain about after campaigning to go get him. Bringing in another QB talent is always a good thing, but searching the scrap heap for a better option than Taylor is absurd. The kid has flat out earned the opportunity to be the starting QB this year and next IMO given what he's done given the adversity that has hit this team and offense this year. Now, if he tanks the rest of the season, I can see the conversation being different, but this kid has done enough thus far to be the guy in the near future. If I'm the Bills, I trade for Cutler and draft a guy. Open competition again. there is nothing wrong with tyrod why would we look at other qb's? I dont get this board a lot of times...I think it's a natural reaction we look to free agency and the draft. The middle of the field says otherwise.
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