PromoTheRobot Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 He has 5 games to show he can be a starter. If he does well, the Broncos have their successor and will cut Manning. They save the $19 mil and can apply part of it to an Osweiler contract. There is no way the Broncos let him go if he does well. Now, Manning states he still wants to play, and will have the rest of this season to heal. Does anyone want a 40 yr old Manning for one year. I say no, but thought this would come up on this or another thread. Just 5 games, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Philip Rivers has a strange throwing motion and he gets the job done. What does Philip Rivers have to do with Brock, you people say the dumbest things. Also 2 Wins is really getting the job done. Edited December 2, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) As bad as manning was - i could totally see them bringing him back for another year while brock gets let go (traded - whatever). They could bring in a bob griffin or something - totally reclaim his career and make him good again. While buffalo misses the playoffs again. $%*@ Denver. Yep. Here's the thing: we're used to bemoaning that fact that we're in QB Purgatory. Look at Denver! Two HOF QBs, with even a couple of the in between guys (Plummer, Cutler) being better than anything we've had here since our own HOFer. Look at Indy! Peyton, then one bad year, then Luck. But this year kind of makes that look like pure whining. The Broncos have had pretty much the worst QB play in the NFL this year with a hobbled Peyton. They had to turn over the keys to a 2nd round draft pick we passed on. And ... there they are, having beaten our nemesis while once again we're 0-2 against them, cruising into the playoffs, right now sitting as 538's 4th most likely team to win a Super Bowl. And their dominant defense doesn't need the ironic quotes like our "dominant" defense. There's no reason why this should be true, except that Rex and Thurman (and Whaley) have been outperformed by Wade Phillips (and Elway). And now the Broncos have a great problem we'd love to have -- do they go back to the HOF guy who looked really good as recently as the Packers game a few weeks ago (granted, his only good game this year, coming off a bye week)? Or do they go with their own version of Tyrod, who's been a very pleasant find? But they play in a weak division, isn't that it! Well ... not really. Objectively, it's the Pats that play in a weak division, getting walkovers 6 times a year with the Jets, Dolphins, and yes ... the Bills. It's frustrating as hell to watch it happen again ... Edited December 2, 2015 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 According to the graphic they showed during the game, Boyst is indeed correct, though I'd be interested in hearing the history of who was taller. Dan McGwire, 6'8", two TD's for the Seahawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Dan McGwire, 6'8", two TD's for the Seahawks.I've got to say this "he's too tall" thing is ridiculous. First, he's 6'7" - as he's said, the extra inch came from inflated height listings from his basketball days. Not that that would matter. Flacco is an inch shorter--are people seriously suggesting that 6'6" is fine but a tick taller and you're doomed? Peyton, Ben, Cam, a bunch of others: all 6'5". The reason there aren't many QBs taller than that? There aren't many skilled athletes (or even human beings in general) taller than that. (And if Brock were 6'10", I'm guessing he would've chosen basketball). You're into the long thin tail of the bell curve. Brock will succeed or fail based on his performance, and his extra inch or two of height over a huge number of other NFL QBs will have nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Philip Rivers has a strange throwing motion and he gets the job done. You can have a strange throwing motion if it doesn't add time to the ball delivery. Rivers has a quick release and gets the ball out on time. Plus he has mastered how to read defenses. The concern with Osweiler and other long-armed QBs is that the elongated motion adds too much time to the delivery. The jury is still out on his recognition of defensive schemes. I'd be interested in any links to your posts recommending Buddy draft Osweiler when he was available. Thanks. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 He beat New England. Give him whatever he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What does Philip Rivers have to do with Brock, you people say the dumbest things. Also 2 Wins is really getting the job done. Stay Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You can have a strange throwing motion if it doesn't add time to the ball delivery. Rivers has a quick release and gets the ball out on time. Plus he has mastered how to read defenses. The concern with Osweiler and other long-armed QBs is that the elongated motion adds too much time to the delivery. The jury is still out on his recognition of defensive schemes. I'd be interested in any links to your posts recommending Buddy draft Osweiler when he was available. Thanks. GO BILLS!!! How is that relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 He won two games. What more proof do you need? He's a certified franchise QB. He beat the Pats, something our QBs don't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 He's an unrestricted free agent after this year... Does he resign with the Broncos without testing the market? I doubt it. Do the Broncos franchise him? I doubt it and not sure if they can afford that. This is a unique and interesting situation and he'll have zero problems seeing over the line. Thoughts? Does Buffalo Barbarian approve this thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 No way Denver let's Osweiler walk, are you kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 But he did once complete two out of three passes to set up a playoff winning field goal before special teams messed it up. Sort of a 20th century version of Austin Davis's Monday night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 No way Denver let's Osweiler walk, are you kidding me? Franchising him becomes a Kolb situation back when he was in philly. They either overpay the guy over a few years - or let someone else do it. Jobu needs a refill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Another guy deemed not good enough by Buddy Nix. And people wonder why this franchise doesn't ever get better. Bad front office management that cannot prioritize the game's clearly most important position. Osweiler may nose-dive with more tape becoming available, but he's been on the bench for 3.5 seasons and seems to have some command. Tyrod Taylor had 4+ seasons and struggles to go through progressions when Sammy isn't there. If only the Bills could identify a QB who grows beyond being a one-read QB? TT struggles when Sammy is there. He often forgets to throw him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) In another thread this week, some of us were talking about how Bills fans have a tendency to overvalue their own players. Robert Woods and Nigel Bradham being two classic examples. I think the opposite is definitely true of quarterbacks. All you see are the highlights and no one seems to understand that quarterbacking is not an easy job. Every QB makes errant throws, poor decisions, etc. in between the highlights. Osweiler has looked OK. Good for two starts. He is certainly not playing at a level higher than Taylor has played for the majority of the season. Yet in this thread, some people are saying "the Broncos would never get rid of Osweiler, what are you nuts!?!" and then meanwhile, most Bills fans seem to be operating under the assumption that Taylor could never become our franchise QB. You can't have it both ways guys. The answer is that the jury is still very much out on both guys. Edited December 2, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Another guy deemed not good enough by Buddy Nix. And people wonder why this franchise doesn't ever get better. Bad front office management that cannot prioritize the game's clearly most important position. Osweiler may nose-dive with more tape becoming available, but he's been on the bench for 3.5 seasons and seems to have some command. Tyrod Taylor had 4+ seasons and struggles to go through progressions when Sammy isn't there. If only the Bills could identify a QB who grows beyond being a one-read QB? Brock was a 2nd round pick and projected to be much less of a project than a 6th round pick in Taylor. Also I imagine Peyton Manning to be a much better mentor than Flacco. So I think it's unfair to compare the two. Brock was a much more complete player coming out of college compared to Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 In another thread this week, some of us were talking about how Bills fans have a tendency to overvalue their own players. Robert Woods and Nigel Bradham being two classic examples. I think the opposite is definitely true of quarterbacks. All you see are the highlights and no one seems to understand that quarterbacking is not an easy job. Every QB makes errant throws, poor decisions, etc. in between the highlights. Osweiler has looked OK. Good for two starts. He is certainly not playing at a level higher than Taylor has played for the majority of the season. Yet in this thread, some people are saying "the Broncos would never get rid of Osweiler, what are you nuts!?!" and then meanwhile, most Bills fans seem to be operating under the assumption that Taylor could never become our franchise QB. You can't have it both ways guys. The answer is that the jury is still very much out on both guys. I thought that much was obvious. When the contracts come up lets see how they have fared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalos#1Fan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Who is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 a long time ago in a distant universe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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