Nuncha Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Rex needs to look in the mirror...only one to blame.
Prickly Pete Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Here's the incontrovertible truth. Rex had one challenge left. It was just seconds before the two minute warming, the point in the game when reviews come from upstairs. So there was no point in saving the replay for later. It's a no-brainer. Use it before you lose it. Yep. The "little things". He doesn't have a head for game management, he is a DC. It's plain as day, right in front of your face. He doesn't have "situational awareness".
Mr. WEO Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 For once I agree with WEO--these guys should at least get the game feed (ideally with a DVR) in the booth. If they see as much as we do, then it was obvious that those two plays needed to be challenged. They do get the feed
Reed83HOF Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Yep. The "little things". He doesn't have a head for game management, he is a DC. It's plain as day, right in front of your face. He doesn't have "situational awareness". How long has it been since we had a coach with "situational awareness"? As much as I hate the Cheats**** and Bellicheat****; they are the best in this regard. They may cheat to know the plays, but damn it the are aware of each situation and what the correct call is; every time. In a league with as much parity as there is and the frequent hiring and firing of coaches; this stability and honestly knowing how to coach is a huge leg up on everyone else. When you are at the top of the food chain, you are responsible for the system that everyone works in. As an HC you are the "situational awareness" guy; you don't call F'ing plays; every play! You need to watch the plays and know what is going on with your team. Given how atrocious the officiating is; it is inexcusable for him to not have a working communication system with the "guy" in the booth. Shifting the blame to others for something that is a core job responsibility of his, shows that he is a charlatan... Edited November 30, 2015 by Reed83HOF
Prickly Pete Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 How long has it been since we had a coach with "situational awareness"? As much as I hate the Cheats**** and Bellicheat****; they are the best in this regard. They may cheat to know the plays, but damn it the are aware of each situation and what the correct call is; every time. In a league with as much parity as there is and the frequent hiring and firing of coaches; this stability and honestly knowing how to coach is a huge leg up on everyone else. When you are at the top of the food chain, you are responsible for the system that everyone works in. As an HC you are the "situational awareness" guy; you don't call F'ing plays; every play! You need to watch the plays and know what is going on with your team. Given how atrocious the officiating is; it is inexcusable for him to not have a working communication system with the "guy" in the booth. Shifting the blame to others for something that is a core job responsibility of his, shows that he is a charlatan... Belichick gets the most out of the talent he has, and is prepared for virtually every development. I don't think it's totally fair to compare Ryan to Belichick, but Ryan isn't even average.
Reed83HOF Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Belichick gets the most out of the talent he has, and is prepared for virtually every development. I don't think it's totally fair to compare Ryan to Belichick, but Ryan isn't even average. LOL I didn't originally mean to, but as I was replying I changed my mind. That honestly is how big the gap truly is and is one reason why they destroy everyone in our division. Playing Ryan the last 6 years in NY, and whatever miscast of coaches us and the 'Phins had is...I don't even know what it is..it is just sad...
Prickly Pete Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I think I would rather have an "up and coming" coach that might at least learn and get better. A guy with a learning curve. Ryan isn't going to get better. 4 more years...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 you get two challenges per game....we have to use them because the officiating is pathetic...there is something wrong with that. Blaming Rex is what's weak- he doesnt see the replays he told by guys upstairs And you have to use the challenges on the big, game-changing plays. Hell, even if there's a 1 in 3 chance that the long "catch" by Maclin is overturned, that's a prudent use of the challenge flag. At worst it costs you a timeout (which we routinely burn when the offense isn't ready for some inexplicable reason) or one of your two coach's challenges -- one of which went unused today anyway. The risk/reward equation is so tilted in favor of throwing the challenge that it makes no sense not to. Which is why Rex increasingly makes no sense at all.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Yep. The "little things". He doesn't have a head for game management, he is a DC. It's plain as day, right in front of your face. He doesn't have "situational awareness". I have alwAys adhered to the idea that NFL coaches are generally terrible at game management. I don't understand why they don't just delegate that task to someone else, like an analytics guy.
MDH Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 With that theory it is Whaley's fault. And with that theory it is the Pegula's fault. The "buck stops here" is very rarely true. The buck stops here is absolutely true for anybody who actually has authority over a given situation. This isn't some far ranging hire that Rex was only sorta familiar with. He is directly responsible for it. One of the major criticisms of Rex during his years with the Jets was that he was a very poor game day coach. He didn't manage games well. Are these things never his fault then? His poor clock management and his poor decisions challenging calls are somebody else's mistakes? An attention to every detail is required from a HC, it's his fault if the systems he has in place fail. Just as it's a good coaching job when those systems succeed. It is the nature of the beast.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 The buck stops here is absolutely true for anybody who actually has authority over a given situation. This isn't some far ranging hire that Rex was only sorta familiar with. He is directly responsible for it. One of the major criticisms of Rex during his years with the Jets was that he was a very poor game day coach. He didn't manage games well. Are these things never his fault then? His poor clock management and his poor decisions challenging calls are somebody else's mistakes? An attention to every detail is required from a HC, it's his fault if the systems he has in place fail. Just as it's a good coaching job when those systems succeed. It is the nature of the beast. And Andy Reid has been criticized on many occasions for poor in-game management. Andy looked like a master tactician compared to Rex.
Prickly Pete Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Wayne Fontes! I figured out who Rex Ryan reminds me of. A personable "player's coach", an affable, self-deprecating interviewee.
dhg Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Here's the incontrovertible truth. Rex had one challenge left. It was just seconds before the two minute warming, the point in the game when reviews come from upstairs. So there was no point in saving the replay for later. It's a no-brainer. Use it before you lose it. Bingo
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 @mikerodak Rex Ryan believes there was an unusually low amount of replays in close calls in Arrowhead Stadium today. He... http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0462732883430217501-4 @AFCEastDaily AFC East Daily Retweeted Mike Rodak Rex questions the Chiefs' in-stadium replay practices. I saw two, the guy in the booth (who should be fired) must have been looking elsewhere at the time. I was yelling throw the flag on the non catch by the Chefs on their second TD drive. Those 7 points mattered.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 30, 2015 Author Posted November 30, 2015 I saw two, the guy in the booth (who should be fired) must have been looking elsewhere at the time. I was yelling throw the flag on the non catch by the Chefs on their second TD drive. Those 7 points mattered. It's a red flag, but hell yes it should have been thrown. It was obvious what the situation called for, but there was no indication that it was even a consideration.
Storm Front Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I believe Jets fans warned us that Rex was a terrible game manager, especially with challenges and time outs. The old dog can't break his habits or learn any new tricks.
Billsfan1972 Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 It wasn't that the Chiefs rushed to get a lay called and off following the Maclin catch. Lots of time to know a flag needed to be thrown. Heck the official wasn't even in position to make that call.
Santana Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Rex is on that Bull$*** like a matador. This is what got Rex in trouble when he coached with the Jets. He is awful at time management and just knowing what's going on in the game overall.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I have alwAys adhered to the idea that NFL coaches are generally terrible at game management. I don't understand why they don't just delegate that task to someone else, like an analytics guy. Agree. It's hard to think about play calls, tendencies, and all that. All while people are probably jabbering in your ear about something else completely. I personally think challenge's are stupid. Just have a couple booth reviewers like they do in college... review what you think is close. Don't have the ref run off the field, just radio in the call.
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