QB Bills Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I think is a combination of how he is used and his frustration of it. There are plays where he destroyed the blockers in front of him and others where he just kind of stands there while a TE blocks him. I have no clue what the play call is or his responsibilities on a given play so I don't know for sure if he is taking plays off or just the scheme but he definitely looks like a different player this year. He jumps to bat passes down and the qb runs around him. He has been taking poor angles. Isn't shedding blocks like he used to. Missing screen reads he normally picks up. Mario looked terrible when they moved him inside against miami. He was single blocked and pushed over like Troup used to when he would try to anchor. The second we moved him inside the dolphins marched down the field. Then Mario jumps instead of putting his hands up and(I may be wrong about the td) Miami scores. Not at the table Karlos...I swear I was going to change my name to that earlier then forgot. Kudos to you sir. Nicely played.
Joeziehmer Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Mario has waffled as he ran the over zone for Scharwtz and now runs the under zone. Chris Carter had it right a few months ago, Mario is not a leader.
NoSaint Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Mario has waffled as he ran the over zone for Scharwtz and now runs the under zone. Chris Carter had it right a few months ago, Mario is not a leader.He's in his 4th scheme in 4 years here. The dude has been incredibly flexible. He walked away from a 34 to be a very basic 43 DE position and since played under wannstedt, pettine, Schwartz (pretty ideal) and Rex. If he's hit his wall and feeling a little "over it" - I wouldn't totally blame him. Wouldn't like it, but would kind of get it. but I think he's better than the commentary here this week, even if the td was his fault Edited November 26, 2015 by NoSaint
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 Mario's play that led to TD at end of 1st half reminded me of Stevie's improv against the Chiefs that blew the game. Given Rex's Reaction, in my opinion Mario is gone this offseason. Guy doesn't seem like a Rex all-in type of guy. Give Mario's money to Wilkerson.yes
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Not at the table Karlos...I swear I was going to change my name to that earlier then forgot. Kudos to you sir. Nicely played. lol thanks. I thought someone already got to it before I did.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 At this point, there are a lot of better players who are playing for a lot less. He was a great player, but for whatever reason he is not this year. See above -- according to Football Outsiders, he is the worst starting defensive end in the NFL this season. Take their approach for what it's worth, but at least it's based on an analysis of the evidence. He's not drawing the double teams that people say he is either. Let's hope he puts it together in the final six games of this year. Through 62.5 percent of this season, though, he's been bad. I say this having been a fan of his. Perhaps he's tired of football - who knows. If Muhammed Wilkerson is a FA next year, you can bet that the Bills will cut Mario in a NY minute if offered the chance to get Wilkerson (a better player). Wilkerson is making some serious money with his play this year. I doubt he gets past a franchise tag at the very least but Mario falling flat on his face this year isn't going to hurt the market for Wilkerson.
TheFunPolice Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Part of it is the losing IMO When all you do is lose and it's a constant stream of new coaches it has to drive a guy nuts. Still, this team has a very realistic chance to end the drought so hopefully Mario isn't too disenchanted with the team to get up for the run mentally.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Mario does take plays off. He got man handled by Gronk in the first NE game. Whether this is the exception or more the norm I honestly don't know. I know that since he left The Texans they have been just fine. And that with out him playing against the NYJ or for the most part the NE game the D looked pretty good. Mario may see the writing on the wall and want out. Isn't this what happened with the Texans when Phillips came In and took over? Mario didn't like his role in the new scheme?
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Anyone think he will restructure this offseason? CBF
BADOLBILZ Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I know that since he left The Texans they have been just fine. Not really. They struggled to replace him. The guys the expected to step up.....based on strong play in his absence due to injury......flopped. They had to use the #1 overall pick on Clowney trying to replace him. Mercilus is stepping up this year, but that's 4 years later.
bigK14094 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Mario has been great on the field since he got here....years of double digit sacks. Now, imho, Rex scheme this year has not worked well, Pettine ran similar and got it done with those same players. And, the management saw fit to change D coordinators several years in a row. this is the kind of problem you get when you don't run the same scheme two years in a row...players having to change roles, and instincts don't always align with the current scheme. I also remember Mario choose to leave the Texans because he didn't want to play in a 3x4. He came to Buffalo to play a 4x3 (and get paid)..He has been totally whipsawed in terms of the scheme..with those being done alternately the last 4 years. (you could make this situaion up for a case in bad managment, but you don't need to make it up, it really happened to the Bills D and players) OK, ownership change, changes in coaching etc etc. but, continuity brings depth of knowledge to players, and these guys are just now learning Rex D. If Mario were cut, he would be snapped up immediately by many others. The guy on the Jets......he has been trouble.....oh oh....that means Rex will definitely want him.
billykaykay Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 People were all over Hughes who's been playing his off. Now it's Mario's turn I see. Mario has always been over rated because he was the #1 overall pick. He must be good - right. Well he is. Good not great. This year he has disappeared. I mentioned this in another post & was rebutted by a so called expert who wondered if I was watching the same game as he was. As I have said previously - next year, he is either cut, traded, or has his contract redone. No way they keep him at his pay level. Watch the DE's of KC this Sunday & tell me who you would rather have. He was an absolute beast last year. Too bad he and Kyle got the injury bug. He was only a beast occasionally.
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I know this..... The D playing lights out against the pats last week WITHOUT Mario being out cannot be helping him...... Mario makes a LOT of money......there are DE's out there that play Rex Scheme well who dont make the coin Mario makes I dont have a opinion on Mario getting cut one way or the other at the moment........it needs to be looked at in a overall team concept because Rex is not going anywhere.
billykaykay Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 He's in his 4th scheme in 4 years here. The dude has been incredibly flexible. He walked away from a 34 to be a very basic 43 DE position and since played under wannstedt, pettine, Schwartz (pretty ideal) and Rex. If he's hit his wall and feeling a little "over it" - I wouldn't totally blame him. Wouldn't like it, but would kind of get it. but I think he's better than the commentary here this week, even if the td was his fault He is in his 4th scheme in 4 years. Wow - the poor guy. It is still football. He is getting beat one on one. I don't know what to say if you can't see that. Not really. They struggled to replace him. The guys the expected to step up.....based on strong play in his absence due to injury......flopped. They had to use the #1 overall pick on Clowney trying to replace him. Mercilus is stepping up this year, but that's 4 years later. Yeah, they really struggled to replace him. Just the best damn player in the game.
Joeziehmer Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 How did they struggle to replace him? Bradham played a stand up game. Now, Mario started at 295lbs and went up to 355lbs not much of a flu.
PearlHowardman Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Buffalo Bills DE Mario Williams: Not likely to play Sunday against the KC Chiefs.
H2o Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 The dead $ from cutting Mario would be around $10,000,000 I believe. I don't see him getting cut. A restructure is more than likely if anything
T master Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 What is up with this guy? Is he even trying? Is he hurt? 11 tackles and 3 assists all year long with only 3 sacks? The guy used to be a monster. For all the money we are paying him what is going on? He's been doing it with only one wheel , that will cut your production in half for sure !!
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 What is up with this guy? Is he even trying? Is he hurt? 11 tackles and 3 assists all year long with only 3 sacks? The guy used to be a monster. For all the money we are paying him what is going on? he's worried about that Skelton trade
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