QB Bills Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 He rarely gets doubled and usually still can't beat his man. And it's usually not the best pass protector he's going up against either. Guy has all the talent in the world but seems like he lacks any semblance of passion. They should get rid of him and use that money somewhere else. Gilmore, Glenn, Incognito, etc.
jumbalaya Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Like Sammy, Mario's played one or two good games all year. Where's Rex the motivator?
Nuncha Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 mario = invisible What else is new...Never shows up for a game against the Pats.
Webster Guy Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 The biggest frustration for me regarding Mario is that last night was the biggest game we've had for this team since he's been here. A depleted Patriots team, a huge divisional opponent where a win would put us 4-1 in the division and push this teams confidence to a playoff level, playing in front of the nation on our first MNF game in SIX freaking years against a weak O-line. Everything was lining up to be perfect. This game was THE reason that we brought on Mario and signed him to the biggest contract ever for a DE at the time. To go impact a meaningful game with playoff implications. Just once. Bums me out. Him too probably, the guy obviously wants win and I'm sure he hates the Patriots as much as we all do. Maybe Bruce Smith has us all so spoiled, expecting to see a dominant DE performance in the big games. Its frustrating because he seems like he's in such great shape, he's not too old yet, he plays pretty hard, he's probably the most physically gifted big man on the field. I don't care about sacks. Bat down a pass or even just change a few throws with some qb hurries. Clog a passing lane. He's always been good recognizing screens and pursuing, even this year. We need this dude.
BuffaloRebound Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Mario's play that led to TD at end of 1st half reminded me of Stevie's improv against the Chiefs that blew the game. Given Rex's Reaction, in my opinion Mario is gone this offseason. Guy doesn't seem like a Rex all-in type of guy. Give Mario's money to Wilkerson.
dave mcbride Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Mario's play that led to TD at end of 1st half reminded me of Stevie's improv against the Chiefs that blew the game. Given Rex's Reaction, in my opinion Mario is gone this offseason. Guy doesn't seem like a Rex all-in type of guy. Give Mario's money to Wilkerson. Wilkerson is the superior player at this point.
Storm Front Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 He was an absolute beast last year. Too bad he and Kyle got the injury bug.
machine gun kelly Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Deers? Deer is both singular and plural so it's just Deer. I have mixed emotions on Mario. He's an impact player who commands double teams more than anyone else on the line. If you want to get rid of him, then who is better to replace him? The answer is noone, so we're not moving on from him in any way shape or form.
dave mcbride Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Deers? Deer is both singular and plural so it's just Deer. I have mixed emotions on Mario. He's an impact player who commands double teams more than anyone else on the line. If you want to get rid of him, then who is better to replace him? The answer is noone, so we're not moving on from him in any way shape or form. At this point, there are a lot of better players who are playing for a lot less. He was a great player, but for whatever reason he is not this year. See above -- according to Football Outsiders, he is the worst starting defensive end in the NFL this season. Take their approach for what it's worth, but at least it's based on an analysis of the evidence. He's not drawing the double teams that people say he is either. Let's hope he puts it together in the final six games of this year. Through 62.5 percent of this season, though, he's been bad. I say this having been a fan of his. Perhaps he's tired of football - who knows. If Muhammed Wilkerson is a FA next year, you can bet that the Bills will cut Mario in a NY minute if offered the chance to get Wilkerson (a better player). Edited November 25, 2015 by dave mcbride
DC Greg Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 He's had a lot of boo boos. Starting to wonder if his passion is fading. Very nervous about Dareus too. But I'm just a worrier so...
QB Bills Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Deers? Deer is both singular and plural so it's just Deer. I have mixed emotions on Mario. He's an impact player who commands double teams more than anyone else on the line. If you want to get rid of him, then who is better to replace him? The answer is noone, so we're not moving on from him in any way shape or form. Completely false.
Freddie's Dead Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Ray Lewis (who knows a Rex defense) really laid into Mario last night and blamed him for the late first half TD. Said it was the wrong time for him to improvise on what was a decent play call. Lewis called it "in and out" coverage. You can see that Mario engages the RT and Robey blitzes inside. Lewis says at that point Mario is supposed to peel off and cover the back out of the backfield, because Graham is covering his zone which is too far away. But Mario wants his and tries to get his, to our detriment. I got no problem letting him go next year, provided the dead money doesn't put us in cap jail hell. Edited November 25, 2015 by Freddie's Dead
bmur66 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 So. Did anyone notice him on the sideline after his feet injury?
Storm Front Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 So. Did anyone notice him on the sideline after his feet injury? No. Why?
bmur66 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I find it strange that our star DE would injure his foot and then not come back out to cheer on his team unless it was serious. I was looking and didn't see him. Plus we haven't heard more about his injury.
NoSaint Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I find it strange that our star DE would injure his foot and then not come back out to cheer on his team unless it was serious. I was looking and didn't see him. Plus we haven't heard more about his injury. Some of you guys crave drama. Either it's really serious or he doesn't care about the team? Way to set up drama no matter what the answer.
GG Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 At this point, there are a lot of better players who are playing for a lot less. He was a great player, but for whatever reason he is not this year. See above -- according to Football Outsiders, he is the worst starting defensive end in the NFL this season. Take their approach for what it's worth, but at least it's based on an analysis of the evidence. He's not drawing the double teams that people say he is either. Let's hope he puts it together in the final six games of this year. Through 62.5 percent of this season, though, he's been bad. I say this having been a fan of his. Perhaps he's tired of football - who knows. If Muhammed Wilkerson is a FA next year, you can bet that the Bills will cut Mario in a NY minute if offered the chance to get Wilkerson (a better player). And that's the rub. Expectations are different for Miario vs Carrington, and Carrington has outplayed him in the last two games, even accounting for the injuries. Mario has been a half step too late on many crucial plays this year. It's not all about schemes, he's simply not beating his man one on one.
bmur66 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Some of you guys crave drama. Either it's really serious or he doesn't care about the team? Way to set up drama no matter what the answer. Sounds like your the one trying to create drama. I am a Mario fan and want to know what's going on with him. He should be destroying everything in front of him but it ain't happening. Getting tired of waiting for his big breakout game.
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Mario is coasting? Okay. People seriously underestimate how much attention he commands. I think is a combination of how he is used and his frustration of it. There are plays where he destroyed the blockers in front of him and others where he just kind of stands there while a TE blocks him. I have no clue what the play call is or his responsibilities on a given play so I don't know for sure if he is taking plays off or just the scheme but he definitely looks like a different player this year. He jumps to bat passes down and the qb runs around him. He has been taking poor angles. Isn't shedding blocks like he used to. Missing screen reads he normally picks up. Really? He has more sacks than any DL on the team and that's with him missing he almost the entire Jets' game and a good portion of last night's game. It's a new scheme for all of these guys and they've been somewhat neutralized by QBs getting rid of the ball quickly earlier in the season. They also moved Mario inside in the Miami home game where he commanded extra attention to allow Hughes to go off on the RT Fox. Mario looked terrible when they moved him inside against miami. He was single blocked and pushed over like Troup used to when he would try to anchor. The second we moved him inside the dolphins marched down the field. Then Mario jumps instead of putting his hands up and(I may be wrong about the td) Miami scores. Edited November 25, 2015 by Not at the table Karlos
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