RalphOP83 Posted November 24, 2015 Author Posted November 24, 2015 Sorry no link.. Watched live on NFL network....it was just a sense I got... Facial expressions when talking about Roman
Maddog69 Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Lets hope Roman gets a job in the offseason. For as good as he is with the run game, our pass game is balls.I disagree. I want consistency. Build on this year, don't keep changing. Find the things that went wrong and fix them. That includes game plans, play call, play execution, player selection (starters/backups) etc. I think Roman has made some bad play calls, but nothing terrible. I would prefer to stick with him.
fridge Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I disagree. I want consistency. Build on this year, don't keep changing. Find the things that went wrong and fix them. That includes game plans, play call, play execution, player selection (starters/backups) etc. I think Roman has made some bad play calls, but nothing terrible. I would prefer to stick with him. Something isn't working though. He's not utilizing Watkins. I can't even understand the excuses anymore. Every other team seems to have no problem getting their star WR the ball.
Beerball Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I disagree. I want consistency. Build on this year, don't keep changing. Find the things that went wrong and fix them. That includes game plans, play call, play execution, player selection (starters/backups) etc. I think Roman has made some bad play calls, but nothing terrible. I would prefer to stick with him. We have consistency.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I like McCoy running that deep route, but hate it as a 3rd and 6 call. You can't have it both ways. A play call like that when the Pats think you are going to run is what you want. It was a perfect call foiled by a perfect strip by the DB.
snafu Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) There were two third and short plays which were terrible calls. First was when everyone knew Taylor was going to keep it and Woods was left to block Chandler Jones. Second was at midfield and everyone knew that they were going to hand off when instead two QB sneaks (if necessary) would have done the job. Edited November 24, 2015 by snafu
fridge Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 There were two third and short plays which were terrible calls. First was when everyone knew Taylor was going to keep it and Woods was left to block Chandler. Second was at midfield and everyone knew that they were going to hand off when instead two QB sneaks (if necessary) would have done the job. My biggest complaint is that Roman seems baffled by 3rd and 5 and shorter. Constantly over thinks the situation. Constantly does a designed run to Taylor. The worst was probably the last three calls in the London game.
LeGOATski Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 You can't have it both ways. A play call like that when the Pats think you are going to run is what you want. It was a perfect call foiled by a perfect strip by the DB. Yup. They make that play, Roman is a genius.
Beerball Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 You can't have it both ways. A play call like that when the Pats think you are going to run is what you want. It was a perfect call foiled by a perfect strip by the DB. What do the Bills do most often on first down? I'd venture to guess that they also do it most often on second down too. It was a crappy throw and IMO not a play you try at that down & distance. That's just me though.
LeGOATski Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 Something isn't working though. He's not utilizing Watkins. I can't even understand the excuses anymore. Every other team seems to have no problem getting their star WR the ball. Yep. I live in and watch a lot of Arizona. They are always finding ways to get it to Fitz (they ran a bubble screen with him!) I get that this is a running offense, but McCoy doesn't need to be the center piece. They're wasting the talents of the younger guy. There's no reason why Watkins shouldn't have 10-12 targets a game. They need to get more creative with him. What do the Bills do most often on first down? I'd venture to guess that they also do it most often on second down too. It was a crappy throw and IMO not a play you try at that down & distance. That's just me though. If the play isn't successful, fans are going to complain. That's what this is. Roman called a TD play. Once that call gets to Tyrod, Roman has no more control. The players have to execute.
John from Riverside Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 The problem with Rex is he's a defensive coordinator, not a head man. A head man has a full grasp of all phases of the game and Rex hands everything over to the offensive coordinator and lets him run the show....completely. I really don't think Rex offers much input on the offense, so if there are any complaints here I think it ultimately falls on him. Funny....because this is exactly what people said Rex needed to learn to do in order to be a successfull HC
CardinalScotts Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 honestly i think he's frustrated with the o line
John from Riverside Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I like McCoy running that deep route, but hate it as a 3rd and 6 call. You would love it if McCoy actually holds onto it
Beerball Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 If the play isn't successful, fans are going to complain. That's what this is. Roman called a TD play. Once that call gets to Tyrod, Roman has no more control. The players have to execute. I always rail against that type of play on a third down, you're just going to have to believe me on this. Not saying I'm right or wrong...I hate drive killing plays and low percentage plays are more likely to kill a drive than your run of the mill get the first down play (on third down).
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 How have past WR's done in SF with Roman as OC? CBF
Hot Buffalo Wings Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I always rail against that type of play on a third down, you're just going to have to believe me on this. Not saying I'm right or wrong...I hate drive killing plays and low percentage plays are more likely to kill a drive than your run of the mill get the first down play (on third down). Exactly. It was a low percentage play. That's what 2nd down is for.
LA Grant Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I always rail against that type of play on a third down, you're just going to have to believe me on this. Not saying I'm right or wrong...I hate drive killing plays and low percentage plays are more likely to kill a drive than your run of the mill get the first down play (on third down). I agree. I think the argument that "well if it worked he's a genius" is kind of dumb. If McCoy held onto the ball, it doesn't become a great call, it just prevents criticism. I'd love to see that call on a 1st or 2nd down but on 3rd-and-manageable you want to see a higher percentage throw. Generally, McCoy has great hands and I like seeing him get a deep target. But situationally that is a questionable call.
dpberr Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I know I'm just a fan but I've watched every game this season of Roman's offense and I don't understand it from one game to the next. As I stated in another thread, we deliberately will not throw to Clay or Watkins. We ignored Robert Woods for the entire season until last night. Why do we have a fullback yet run out of shotgun sets a lot? Why won't you throw to your best players EVERY game? We have one great pass catching TE in Clay and a good one in Gragg yet we won't throw to them. To me, it's bizarre. It feels like a coordinator trying to out think the room just like Hackett did.
BuffaloMatt Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I know we want to run the ball but G RO pretty predictable on 1st down.
LA Grant Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 I know I'm just a fan but I've watched every game this season of Roman's offense and I don't understand it from one game to the next. As I stated in another thread, we deliberately will not throw to Clay or Watkins. We ignored Robert Woods for the entire season until last night. Why do we have a fullback yet run out of shotgun sets a lot? Why won't you throw to your best players EVERY game? We have one great pass catching TE in Clay and a good one in Gragg yet we won't throw to them. To me, it's bizarre. It feels like a coordinator trying to out think the room just like Hackett did. It is very strange. There are some OCs that I think buy into their own press. They get called a genius once and then just start over complicating things so that they can be the reason for the success.
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