OhDozeBills Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Leodis scares me on punt returns and isn't getting the job done. He looks very unsure of himself and is costing us valuable yards. He's fair catching when there's plenty of room to run, has let the ball go a few times because he misjudged it and isn't really catching the ball clean when he does. I think we need a change here and my vote would be to give Robert Woods a shot. He's not as much of a threat for the big return but think he would be steady and have some nice returns in the 10-20 yard range. Anyone have thoughts on who we should give a shot?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Leodis scares me on punt returns and isn't getting the job done. He looks very unsure of himself and is costing us valuable yards. He's fair catching when there's plenty of room to run, has let the ball go a few times because he misjudged it and isn't really catching the ball clean when he does. I think we need a change here and my vote would be to give Robert Woods a shot. He's not as much of a threat for the big return but think he would be steady and have some nice returns in the 10-20 yard range. Anyone have thoughts on who we should give a shot? Not unreasonable. I used to return punts and my coaches always said the most important thing a PR does is catch the ball. This of course means not letting it roll as well as not muffing it. Leodis has done that and it hurts. However, the PR is a game changer and he has the ability. I'd like to Watkins do it myself. Edited November 21, 2015 by The Thurmanator
HOF4LOU Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 leodis is actually a lot better than the guy they had doing it before. can't remember who that was but he was terrible. I am sure they put leodis is for that reason.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 leodis is actually a lot better than the guy they had doing it before. can't remember who that was but he was terrible. I am sure they put leodis is for that reason. Thigpen
Leroi Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Leo is good at returning, I am more concerned that he will get injured while doing so. Let's protect him and have him play D only. Imo
HOF4LOU Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 not Thigpen. they cut him a while ago. it was one of the receivers. Thigpen would have been good to keep for returns. we have no one.
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Woods was an awesome PR in college. Been saying since beginning of year it should be his job. Must be some reason they aren't but I vote for him.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Leodis scares me on punt returns and isn't getting the job done. He looks very unsure of himself and is costing us valuable yards. He's fair catching when there's plenty of room to run, has let the ball go a few times because he misjudged it and isn't really catching the ball clean when he does. I think we need a change here and my vote would be to give Robert Woods a shot. He's not as much of a threat for the big return but think he would be steady and have some nice returns in the 10-20 yard range. Anyone have thoughts on who we should give a shot? I like the idea of woods. PR needs to catch it and get some yards. A home run threat is nice but Leodis is tied for 39th all time with 3... It's a once a season thing at best. Karlos Williams or McCoy strike me as interesting options but since RBs already get so beat up, I doubt this is viable long term.
OhDozeBills Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 Denarius Moore was doing it and seemed a bit shakey as well. They also won't risk injury to key players like Sammy and McCoy. That's why Woods comes to mind. Perhaps you give Leo one more shot since he's likely rusty for being out so long but if I don't see improvement I would make a change. Thigpen was great last year but either lost a step or just didn't have the opportunity with poor blocking but would still be more comfortable with him than Leo right now.
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Leo scares me as well, but I certainly don't want Watkins or woods getting hurt returning. On an unrelated special teams note, Carpenter kicking extra points from the hash instead of the middle of the field like everyone else makes me sweat every PAT.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 not Thigpen. they cut him a while ago. it was one of the receivers. Thigpen would have been good to keep for returns. we have no one. Your're right. My bad. Forgot about Denarius, maybe for good reason
peterpan Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Thigpen No thigpen was good. They let him go and sign denarious Moore who stunk it up for a coupes weeks, including loosing a fumble I. His first game as a bill We should bring thigpen back if we can We should bring thigpen back if we can
cantankerous Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Why would you say Woods would be better than Leodis? Woods has returned 1 punt in his NFL career. I'm very glad Moore is no longer returning punts, as he seemed to have troubles including but not limited to: cleanly catching the punt, estimating if he had room to return it or if he should fair catch it, and making a fair catch inside the 10 yard line. Leodis has proven he's a good punt returner, with 3 career PR touchdowns and 1 KO return touchdown.
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 No thigpen was good. They let him go and sign denarious Moore who stunk it up for a coupes weeks, including loosing a fumble I. His first game as a bill We should bring thigpen back if we can We should bring thigpen back if we can Thigpen wasn't good this year. He had the great play last year vs GB but unless I'm forgetting something he did nothing this year before he got cut
machine gun kelly Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 This topic reminds me of that stupid decision of him his rookie year running out the return vs. taking a knee and running out the clock on the Patriots in 09. We had that damn game, and he blew it just like he did in the Chiefs game fumbling that ball. Everyone remembers last year's Bryce Brown fumble, but he sealed it with his fumble on the return. I don't trust him on returns. If Woods was good at it at USC, that sounds good to me. I wonder if any of our other DB's would be good in this role. Darby, Gilmore, Robey, Rambo. They all are talented. My guess is Robey with his speed and change of direction could do the job well.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I think Leodis was just getting back to football speed after being out for a year and it was raining hard at times in the Jet game. He didn't want to muff it. By now he's probably back to normal as far as being comfortable but he has ghosts versus the Pats.
Manther Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 This topic reminds me of that stupid decision of him his rookie year running out the return vs. taking a knee and running out the clock on the Patriots in 09. We had that damn game, and he blew it just like he did in the Chiefs game fumbling that ball. Everyone remembers last year's Bryce Brown fumble, but he sealed it with his fumble on the return. I don't trust him on returns. If Woods was good at it at USC, that sounds good to me. I wonder if any of our other DB's would be good in this role. Darby, Gilmore, Robey, Rambo. They all are talented. My guess is Robey with his speed and change of direction could do the job well. Those are my thoughts too on Leodis! Woods seems like the best overall option.
Rockinon Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 LEO is awesome on PRs. You guys are paranoid.
Augie Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Not unreasonable. I used to return punts and my coaches always said the most important thing a PR does is catch the ball. This of course means not letting it roll as well as not muffing it. Leodis has done that and it hurts. However, the PR is a game changer and he has the ability. I'd like to Watkins do it myself. So, things have come full circle, and we're back to a "Punt Catcher"? Ahh, those were the days. Almost brings a tear to my eye....
WotAGuy Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Let him fair catch every one. Why risk injury when we have proven we cannot return a punt without a blocking penalty.
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