26CornerBlitz Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Deion: 'I don't want to see Peyton go out this way" Gary Kubiak on benching Peyton Manning: 'It's on me' Manning throws 4 interceptions on record-breaking day Edited November 16, 2015 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) If only Brady could drop off the cliff so quickly.... But soon. Edited November 16, 2015 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Did not know that. Though at this point it just looks like an excuse. Yeah, I'm skeptical. If he is hurt, having him throw deep on his first pass play seems an odd choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 How pissed would Favre be if Manning turned out to be injured and never played again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 How pissed would Favre be if Manning turned out to be injured and never played again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 How can that be when many here were saying we should have traded for him.? Osweiler stinks. If they don't play great defense they are an also ran. He's on my FF team along with Bortles, fortunately I played Blake, still lost but at least I didn't also have -7 at QB He has negative 7 points for the guy I was playing in FF this week. Never seen that before. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 One of the Top 10 all-time QBs should be able to use this as motivation. I think he'll turn it around and finish off the season strong. I'm basing this solely on Peyton Manning the man -- not the football player. We didn't see it today, but that defense is good enough to get the Broncos deep into the playoffs with a mediocre QB. I believe that's what Peyton is this year, today's game notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Kubiak: If healthy, Peyton's our quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Kubiak: If healthy, Peyton's our quarterback Is this a nice way of saying he's benched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Dan Marino's second to last year, age 37r: 10-6, 80 QBR, 23 TD, 15 INT. Marino's final year (38): 5-6, 67 QBR, 12 TD, 17 INT. Done. Brett Favre's second to last year (40): 12-4, 107 QBR, 33 TD, 7 INT. Favre's final year (41): 5-8, 70 QBR, 11 TD, 17 INT. Done. Yes, Manning is hurt -- plantar fasciitis and a rib injury too. And given that he already needs to step into his throws to get adequate strength on them, he's pretty much useless right now. So he's hurt, maybe he'll sit a week or two, and then maybe have a brief rebound as he did in the Green Bay game. But still ... this is how it almost always ends for the great and aged. An injury or a series of injuries that they can't quite heal from. Manning is immobile to begin with, but now he's about as immobile as I've ever seen -- he just collapses rather than even trying to shake off pass rushers. One of the Denver columnists called him the Fainting Goat. As for Osweiler: he probably is crap, if only because most Starting QBs in Waiting are. But he might be better. Even in limited action today his mobility made a big difference, as did his arm strength. Right now he's Tyrod 2014 (well, a Tyrod who's about a foot taller) -- I think the Broncos will re-sign him and move on from Peyton, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone (Texans?) tries to convince Peyton to give it one more go ... ... oh, and it'll happen to Brady too. And well before he's 50 ... Edited November 16, 2015 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Dan Marino's second to last year, age 37r: 10-6, 80 QBR, 23 TD, 15 INT. Marino's final year (38): 5-6, 67 QBR, 12 TD, 17 INT. Yes, Manning is hurt -- plantar fasciitis and a rib injury too. And given that he already needs to step into his throws to get adequate strength on them, he's pretty much useless right now. So he's hurt, maybe he'll sit a week or two, and then maybe have a brief rebound as he did in the Green Bay game. But still ... this is how it almost always ends for the great and aged. An injury or a series of injuries that they can't quite heal from. Manning is immobile to begin with, but now he's about as immobile as I've ever seen -- he just collapses rather than even trying to shake off pass rushers. One of the Denver columnists called him the Fainting Goat. As for Osweiler: he probably is crap, if only because most Starting QBs in Waiting are. But he might be better. Even in limited action today his mobility made a big difference, as did his arm strength. Right now he's Tyrod 2014 (well, a Tyrod who's about a foot taller) -- I think the Broncos will re-sign him and move on from Peyton, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone (Texans?) tries to convince Peyton to give it one more go ... Except TT was a great college player and Osweiler an average one. He was drafted because he's big and has a really strong arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The thing about all time passing records is that they will all be gone in 10 years the way the league is now. Nobody can ever take away the hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Except TT was a great college player and Osweiler an average one. He was drafted because he's big and has a really strong arm. Osweiler came out early too. No doubt TT had a more impressive senior year, but as I said, while I don't expect Osweiler to be more than adequate, there's a chance he'll break out if given the opportunity. People are still bewildered by why Elway hired Kubiak and installed Kubiak's offense when Manning obviously can't run it. The answer is the Kubiak hire wasn't about Manning, it's about the post-Manning future. It'll be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) anyone remember Marino's final year in 1999 it was a lot like this - can't move - fastball comes out like a popcorn fart - a lot of picks - they look a lot a like.................. 5-6 record for Marino didn't have Denvers D to finish up with (and save face) Edited November 16, 2015 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The day this becomes Brady's reality I might smile for a month straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Osweiler came out early too. No doubt TT had a more impressive senior year, but as I said, while I don't expect Osweiler to be more than adequate, there's a chance he'll break out if given the opportunity. People are still bewildered by why Elway hired Kubiak and installed Kubiak's offense when Manning obviously can't run it. The answer is the Kubiak hire wasn't about Manning, it's about the post-Manning future. It'll be interesting. But he just wasn't very good. He only started one season and was an average QB with a lively arm. Threw a ton of bad balls and bad decisions. A lot of his completions were on these swing passes they used to run (which he was pretty good on but they were still the equivalent of 5 yard passes). He wasn't a great leader or play great in big games or a very good runner or anything. He just had a cannon of an arm and was 6'8" or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 But he just wasn't very good. He only started one season and was an average QB with a lively arm. Threw a ton of bad balls and bad decisions. A lot of his completions were on these swing passes they used to run (which he was pretty good on but they were still the equivalent of 5 yard passes). He wasn't a great leader or play great in big games or a very good runner or anything. He just had a cannon of an arm and was 6'8" or whatever. He's actually a very mobile QB. No, not a flat-out runner like TT, but very athletic. And he is 6'8". And he does have a cannon. Which are ... kind of important when you're playing QB in the NFL. And no, he's not Ryan Mallett. He's by all accounts a very good pupil. Look, nobody wanted to give Tyrod much of anything when he hit free agency, so I find it curious that people who believed in him are so ready to dismiss other 4-year understudies like Osweiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 If only Brady could drop off the cliff so quickly.... But soon. Next Monday hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 He's actually a very mobile QB. No, not a flat-out runner like TT, but very athletic. And he is 6'8". And he does have a cannon. Which are ... kind of important when you're playing QB in the NFL. And no, he's not Ryan Mallett. He's by all accounts a very good pupil. Look, nobody wanted to give Tyrod much of anything when he hit free agency, so I find it curious that people who believed in him are so ready to dismiss other 4-year understudies like Osweiler. He's Ryan Mallet because he is very tall and has a very strong arm. He's more mobile than Mallet but that is about it. He's not all that accurate downfield, he's not a great leader or player or QB. I couldn't believe he was drafted as high as he was but scouts love the size and cannon of course. Again, he was the QB of my favorite team. I saw every game. He wasn't good. Tyrod Taylor was a star and most of his team's fans thought he was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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