Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Unfortunately the Bills were really hurting at big $ positions like QB, LT, DE, DT and WR during his career in Buffalo. 1st and 2nd round picks starting at safety though. 1st and 2nd round picks at C and G though. Two 1st round picks at RB and a 2nd round at ILB though. Every one of those guys are still active NFL players. Just one still plays for the Bills. That's the definition of poorly prioritizing the positions you draft. Or poorly identifying players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 ESPN: Eagles 10-6 http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/166300/2015-nfl-regular-season-predictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Unfortunately the Bills were really hurting at big $ positions like QB, LT, DE, DT and WR during his career in Buffalo. 1st and 2nd round picks starting at safety though. 1st and 2nd round picks at C and G though. Two 1st round picks at RB and a 2nd round at ILB though. Every one of those guys are still active NFL players. Just one still plays for the Bills. That's the definition of poorly prioritizing the positions you draft. Or poorly identifying players. I think hashtag's point is that the players themselves were pretty good - hence pointing out that all of them are still active NFL players. The Bills also have a few good examples of correctly prioritizing positions, but poorly identifying players: Aaron Maybin, Mike Williams, JP Losman, and Erik Flowers come to mind as 1st-round picks at big ticket positions who didn't make it. All were out of the league very quickly after leaving the Bills. (I'm one of the last 3-4 EJ semi-believers, but even I'll admit that he's probably going to be on this list in a year or two.) If you want to include DT as a big ticket position (debatable), then you could add Torrell Troup and John McCargo in as well. And since hashtag included WR in the list as well, let's also include James Hardy. Great positional priority for all of these, and all (ostensibly) filled a need to boot, they just weren't good enough players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kelly the Dog Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Even though Whaley was brought in by Nix, he doesn't do business like Nix did at all (very willing to make trades, much more active during the season, not just the good ol' boy big program southern school in the draft, etc.). Plus he brought in his own personnel guys. That, combined with the new ownership of Daddy Warbucks, and the subsequent hiring of Rex Ryan and Greg Roman, makes me believe "Bills history" has very little impact or affect or relationship whatsoever to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I called that the 49ers were gonna suck this year!I predicted that the University of Alabama Crimson Tide might be pretty good in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I predicted that the University of Alabama Crimson Tide might be pretty good in 2015. Billstradamus! Did you think Amari Cooper was gonna be a good WR too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Woah, Casserly was wrong! In the words of Belichick... who has been wrong more than Charlie Casserly since he left Washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Billstradamus! Did you think Amari Cooper was gonna be a good WR too? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 This is a LAMP post: I called this 6 months ago. Not specifically on the Kiko trade, but that Chip Kelly was wrecking the Eagles with his moves. While the media were talking Super Bowl I said the Eagles would be in the mix for the #1 pick. Wow. How non lampworthy. Eagles with no McCoy or playmakers might struggle ? Amazing. If you called Seattle, maybe someone would care ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 :) You also knew Dre Kirkpatrick would suck, too, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Not as one sided as Sheppard for Hughes but my God, Kiko is a shadow of what he showed during his rookie year. When he's healthy, Alonso is undisciplined and over-pursues most plays. And he's never healthy. The guy had two great games out of 16 and, somehow, became bigger than Jesus on this site. I'll never understand it. This trade was an absolute steal for the Bills from the second it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You also knew Dre Kirkpatrick would suck, too, didn't you?No, but read my posts about Kuandjio before and after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 No, but read my posts about Kuandjio before and after the draft. I do recall that... hopefully over time you will be proven wrong but right now you nailed it... I just meant with your distaste for high draft pick DBs I thought maybe you would have badmouthed Dre, too. Oh, and Mark Barron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 When he's healthy, Alonso is undisciplined and over-pursues most plays. And he's never healthy. The guy had two great games out of 16 and, somehow, became bigger than Jesus on this site. I'll never understand it. This trade was an absolute steal for the Bills from the second it happened. It was the 5 Int's through 5 games. He's been MIA ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It was the 5 Int's through 5 games. He's been MIA ever since. 4. I think in 4 games. http://www.nfl.com/player/kikoalonso/2539935/careerstats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Frankly I generally hold off till the season is over before I will stick my neck out and issue my predictions. It's a good system for getting the numbers right. Problem is I can't find a way to make any money with it. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I think hashtag's point is that the players themselves were pretty good - hence pointing out that all of them are still active NFL players. The Bills also have a few good examples of correctly prioritizing positions, but poorly identifying players: Aaron Maybin, Mike Williams, JP Losman, and Erik Flowers come to mind as 1st-round picks at big ticket positions who didn't make it. All were out of the league very quickly after leaving the Bills. (I'm one of the last 3-4 EJ semi-believers, but even I'll admit that he's probably going to be on this list in a year or two.) If you want to include DT as a big ticket position (debatable), then you could add Torrell Troup and John McCargo in as well. And since hashtag included WR in the list as well, let's also include James Hardy. Great positional priority for all of these, and all (ostensibly) filled a need to boot, they just weren't good enough players. In this instance I think that Bado absolutely has a point If you are going to be a good team you have to draft well with your 1st round picks......we have went through so many years of bad 1st round picks it got to the point where you cringe when someone was drafted....... They have been better especially when Whaley took over (I know I know that is debatable) lets just pretend for a second that Sammy Watkins is the player that we are seeing making Grimes and Revis look silly......Marcel...yes....Gilmore....yes......Darby....yes....this does not even take into account 2nd round players which have also been hits....Glenn...yes......Woods...yes......Darby....yes....Kiko....yes but....you can see the transition...you draft better...the team becomes more talented.....the team has a winning record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) I do recall that... hopefully over time you will be proven wrong but right now you nailed it... I just meant with your distaste for high draft pick DBs I thought maybe you would have badmouthed Dre, too. Oh, and Mark Barron. I liked Barron coming out of college more than I did Dre, but I wouldn't have taken him at #7. It makes no sense. Edited November 17, 2015 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I predicted that the University of Alabama Crimson Tide might be pretty good in 2015. They would be even better with a good qb. Probably the favorites to be national champions. Why can't they recruit an elite level qb prospect instead of those manage the game type qbs? They get what they want at all the other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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