Griff28 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Not as one sided as Sheppard for Hughes but my God, Kiko is a shadow of what he showed during his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 INteresting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 What are you talking about kiko is just what this defense is missing and mccoys cap number is too too high. Said the tsw'ers of a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 What's your opinion on Marrone quitting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Hey, Kiko made a play to stop a RB after 3 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I am thinking going with whitner over ngata may not prove to be a wise decision. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 What do y'all think about Torrell troupe over Gronk tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 the Legend's one-handed INT in the end zone early this season was pretty awesome though. still glad we did the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I am thinking going with whitner over ngata may not prove to be a wise decision. Thoughts?LOL. Have you guys seen the artwork Aaron Maybin is putting out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsMmgvtesDc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Wait we traded Kiko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 LOL. Have you guys seen the artwork Aaron Maybin is putting out?? That 2009 draft is the cornerstone of this franchise. I don't recall a stronger draft since 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 That 2009 draft is the cornerstone of this franchise. I don't recall a stronger draft since 2000 True...."Stud City". 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 That 2009 draft is the cornerstone of this franchise. I don't recall a stronger draft since 2000 Cornerstone? As in the foundation of the current team? The only player left is Eric Wood.........and it cost them perennial All Pro LT Jason Peters to get that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Cornerstone? As in the foundation of the current team? The only player left is Eric Wood.........and it cost them perennial All Pro LT Jason Peters to get that pick. Cornerstone? As in the foundation of the current team? The only player left is Eric Wood.........and it cost them perennial All Pro LT Jason Peters to get that pick. You might want to take your sarcasm detector in for a tuneup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Cornerstone? As in the foundation of the current team? The only player left is Eric Wood.........and it cost them perennial All Pro LT Jason Peters to get that pick. Pretty sure it was a joke, comparing the Mabin draft with the Flowers one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) You might want to take your sarcasm detector in for a tuneup Jairus Byrd was an All Pro with the Bills. Levitre was an excellent guard. Wood.....well, he's been a starter. Three long term starters is a pretty good draft. Technically. It was less a bad draft than an example of how NOT to use your early picks. Rule of thumb: if you draft a guy early and he plays at or above expectations.....and he pans out and you won't pay him market rate as a free agent because you don't value that position.....then it was a poor use of a pick. Early rounds aren't for JAGs like Eric Wood, undersize OG's or cornebacks that are too slow so they have to be converted to safety. Early rounds you need to be getting prototypes at positions that are worthy of paying market value too if they pan out. Edited November 15, 2015 by #BADOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Jairus Byrd was an All Pro with the Bills. Levitre was an excellent guard. Wood.....well, he's been a starter. Three long term starters is a pretty good draft. Technically. It was less a bad draft than an example of how NOT to use your early picks. Rule of thumb: if you draft a guy early and he plays at or above expectations.....and he pans out and you won't pay him market rate as a free agent because you don't value that position.....then it was a poor use of a pick. Early rounds aren't for JAGs like Eric Wood, undersize OG's or cornebacks that are too slow so they have to be converted to safety. Early rounds you need to be getting prototypes at positions that are worthy of paying market value too if they pan out. That's a pretty good draft philosophy. Of course, you could always say that you can't keep them all, and you often are drafting for need. As a rule though, I recall the words of Chuck Dickerson , when talking about the early rounds " draft a big guy" . His reasoning : it's just a more unique body type. There aren't that many big men that can move. There are plenty of athletic guys that are around 5'11", 6'0". You don't take those unless they are truly special. I'd have to agree with you. A FS is the slowest guy in your secondary. If the guy is really good, you still aren't going to pay him big $. He's essentially a rental. Stick with big guys in the early part of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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