CardinalScotts Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 That's just wrong. its sick and im thinking the same thing
stevewin Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I may have to stop watching the game of football if we try the passive drop everybody in coverage approach which teams try but never works against Brady. All it does is allow him to stand there and make completions completely comfortably and untouched. I don't care if he gets the ball off in 2.1 seconds, at least make him uncomfortable if he does by getting in his face, and getting a shot in every single play - even if it's only a shove. Then when he's uncomfortable the completions don't come so easy. The pressure is not only about getting sacks, it's about not letting him stand there like a statue a whole game playing a game of catch completely untouched. Take away the inside slants and make him throw outs - that's a pass he simply is not good at making anymore, esp. when he's uncomfortable.
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) I know that most people are writing the Pats* game off as a loss, but if they Bills lose to them they will be 5-5 (0.500) through 10 games. That is exactly where they found themselves last season so it will be hard to say that they have many any real improvements even after all the spending. It also means that they will most likely need to go 5-1 the rest of the way to make it into the playoffs, which is pretty unlikely when you've gone 5-5 up to that point. If you're a 0.500 team what are the chances that you're going to go 5-1 in a stretch of 6 games of? In short, I think this is a game that they've got to have to make a statement that this team is better than last season, that they are a playoff team and that they are a threat to not just eek into the playoffs but to make some noise when they get there. we don't need to determine anything after 10 games, first of all. Second, they have 5 AFC wins at this point. Last year, they had 5 all season (Or 4 if you don't count the last Pats exhibition game). That's what gets teams in the playoffs - conference wins. Edited November 14, 2015 by YoloinOhio
LB3 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I'm hopimg that they play a lot of press coverage. I want to see Darby and McLovin on the boundaries, with Gilmore shadowing Gronk all game. Jerry is going to wreak havoc this game.
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I'm hopimg that they play a lot of press coverage. I want to see Darby and McLovin on the boundaries, with Gilmore shadowing Gronk all game. Jerry is going to wreak havoc this game. i have wondered if Rex might blitz more this time. In the 2nd week of the season he may not have had as much trust in Darby as he does now to blitz with a safety vs Brady.
vincec Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 we don't need to determine anything after 10 games, first of all. Second, they have 5 AFC wins at this point. Last year, they had 5 all season (Or 4 if you don't count the last Pats exhibition game). That's what gets teams in the playoffs - conference wins. After all the spending and trades- a new HC coach, McCoy, Taylor, Harvin, Incognito, Clay, Roman, Darby, "the new 46 defense", and many other "improvements" and hype- to be sitting at 5-5 just like last season, and to know that they can't beat NE*, just like last season, is pretty deflating. What did all the stuff they did mean?
Deranged Rhino Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 After all the spending and trades- a new HC coach, McCoy, Taylor, Harvin, Incognito, Clay, Roman, Darby, "the new 46 defense", and many other "improvements" and hype- to be sitting at 5-5 just like last season, and to know that they can't beat NE*, just like last season, is pretty deflating. What did all the stuff they did mean? If you think this team, especially on offense, is anything like last season's team, you're not watching the games closely enough. This team is deeper, faster, can actually run the ball, and is better coached. The last 7 games are much less daunting than last year's final stretch of games too. What did all the stuff they did mean? A playoff team.
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 After all the spending and trades- a new HC coach, McCoy, Taylor, Harvin, Incognito, Clay, Roman, Darby, "the new 46 defense", and many other "improvements" and hype- to be sitting at 5-5 just like last season, and to know that they can't beat NE*, just like last season, is pretty deflating. What did all the stuff they did mean?what does anything mean after 10 games? The end of the season is where you determine things. Who cares if they are 5-5 both years at the 10 game mark? Last year's result wasn't determined then and neither is this year's.
vincec Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) If you think this team, especially on offense, is anything like last season's team, you're not watching the games closely enough. This team is deeper, faster, can actually run the ball, and is better coached. The last 7 games are much less daunting than last year's final stretch of games too. What did all the stuff they did mean? A playoff team. Offense is better, defense and ST are worse. Since the new HC is a defensive specialist and their defense has underperformed, I think you can question if they are better coached. Not to mention all the discipline and time management problems. At this point they look no better than last year's team. I don't know if they're ready to do it but they really need a statement win to prove otherwise, IMO. what does anything mean after 10 games? The end of the season is where you determine things. Who cares if they are 5-5 both years at the 10 game mark? Last year's result wasn't determined then and neither is this year's.10 games is a pretty good sample size. Edited November 14, 2015 by vincec
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) 10 games is a pretty good sample size. and yet determines nothing ... Sample size for what exactly? Edited November 14, 2015 by YoloinOhio
LB3 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 i have wondered if Rex might blitz more this time. In the 2nd week of the season he may not have had as much trust in Darby as he does now to blitz with a safety vs Brady. Good point about trusting Darby. I hope you're right about blitzing more this time around. Just force the issue.
vincec Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 and yet determines nothing ... Sample size for what exactly? To see how good the team is.
machine gun kelly Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Philly game is first game he is eligible to active I heard the same thing, and also KW won't be back until the following week. I certainly hope Kyle can make a miraculous come back and have a monster game. Mario will be fine, and McKelvin is a nice addition on the defense. Now, will we finally play press on these guys, and smack them in the mouth. We need a LB like Bradham nailing Gonk at the LOS, and then Graham or McKelvin picks him up. Slow those damn WR down so it gives our front four to get to Brady. It's the only way to slow them down. BB will try and take away our best weapon which is the run, so when they game plan for McCoy, we need an answer with Karlos Williams. We need a big Clay day. I still think we have a minimal chance of beating them, but beating them would be amazing. God bless our Bills!!
YoloinOhio Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) To see how good the team is.are they subject to the CFB playoff committee's weekly rankings? No, this is the NFL. They will make the playoffs or they won't in due time but otherwise "fan opinion of how good they are in week 10" is meaningless IMO. Edited November 14, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Charles Romes Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 This is a game we pull out all the stops in. If we win we only need 3 of 6 to make the playoffs. Tyrod as integral part of the running game. Lots of wildcat.
bigK14094 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 In Week Two the Pats* had 10 days to prepare for our Bills. I felt then it was a huge advantage. But I think the 11 days we have now is an even larger advantage given the dire need for rest. I trust Greg Roman and Dennis Thurman will gin up a great game plan to present to Rex when he gets back from Syracuse (that's where Clemson plays tomorrow). Hoping all three Williams will be back, Shady will be full strength, Tyrod will be healed and Sammy will be as explosive as ever. Actually, I am hoping, after two incidents of radio failures, that the bills throw away the NFL provided headsets, and buy something that really works. TT burned two timeouts, maybe three on this problems. Seems to me this ranks up there with a great game plan. It would be big not to have this happen again (sarcasism)
Deranged Rhino Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Offense is better, defense and ST are worse. Since the new HC is a defensive specialist and their defense has underperformed, I think you can question if they are better coached. Not to mention all the discipline and time management problems. At this point they look no better than last year's team. I don't know if they're ready to do it but they really need a statement win to prove otherwise, IMO. They have better coaches across the board. As much as Ryan gets hated on, he's twice the coach Marrone was and, unlike players under St. Doug, guys are performing better the longer they're in the system. To say they aren't better coached than under the last regime just ain't true. But here's the question, if they look better than last year's team at this point, what point are you making with your original post: "What did all the stuff they did mean?" Clearly you've answered your own question. They've improved as a team, comparing them to last year's squad is an exercise in futility.
BackInDaDay Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 just went back to the Jets v NE game.. only got into the 2nd qtr, but the Pats haven't gotten moved the ball at all against their 4-2-5.. Jets have varied their coverages - but basically laid out a hi-lo blanket across the field with cover 3 and 4, and mixing in some man with cover 1 high safety who he occasionally walked down into the box. i'm thinking the Pats early throw-throw- throw gameplan was in response to what their perceived chances were in running the ball. obviously, Belichick didn't like how his O line matched up with the Jets' fronts - particularly, their front 4. so far, the Jets left DE and DT are crushing the Pat's right side, while their left side is collapsing too. Brady looks very uncomfortable, and his timing is off. i'm not sure if they have a first down yet. Fitz fumbled deep in in his own end on the Jets 1st possession, and Pats kicked FG on 4th. gotta go put my rakes away, but i'm curious how the Pats responded. i know they eventually win a tough game, so i'm thinking Bowles did a good job countering all afternoon. my first impression is that our personnel could defend them this way for the first 20 minutes, also.
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Tyrod is going to put up points.....he did it in the first pats game and he will do it here This game begins and ends with "Can the Bills stop Brady enough times to win the game"
Boatdrinks Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 After all the spending and trades- a new HC coach, McCoy, Taylor, Harvin, Incognito, Clay, Roman, Darby, "the new 46 defense", and many other "improvements" and hype- to be sitting at 5-5 just like last season, and to know that they can't beat NE*, just like last season, is pretty deflating. What did all the stuff they did mean? We won't truly know until the end of the season standings. The new HC was forced by Marrones departure, so let's get that out of the way. To expect that all the changes and acquisitions that come with that will work to perfection out of the gate is a bit removed from reality. Another bit of reality is that the Bills ( or apparently the rest of the NFL) isn't beating the Pats until Brady retires or someone nearly as good emerges/ is acquired. That doesn't mean that the Bills moves are for naught , as they are right in the thick of the playoff race. The division may be unwinnable as previously stated, but the playoffs are attainable. That's a reasonable goal for a Bills team that has gone nowhere for a decade and a half. Anyone paying attention in the offseason realized the Bills didn't have the QB to actually overtake New England. The Bills are stuck in the AFC East, so the division is far more closed off than the other 7. Only unrealistic expectations would make that realization deflating. The Bills tried to get better and close the gap with the playoff contenders. They were going nowhere with EJM or even Orton at QB, so it meant they weren't going to stand still. We'll see if it produces a playoff berth in year one , and the Bills are in position with tiebreaks to control their own destiny. That's a big difference than last season when they were thin on all important AFC wins but went 4-0 vs NFC north. So the record may be the same, but Bills fans can be ok with that knowing their team has beaten the " right teams" to get them to the postseason . They need to continue this going forward, just be glad their will be no requirement of beating the Pats to get into the tournament .
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