ricojes Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 He made a monumental mistake when he took a 7 yard sack near the Jets' goal line when he ran OOB instead of throwing it away. wasn't monumental, but it was a big mistake. But I think it was a bigger mistake with the play call, the Jets were containing TT all day, he had no room to run...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 5th best quarterback rating in the league. BEST completion percentage in the league. Did Tyrod kick your dog or something? This crusade is a strong one man. I know stats aren't everything but I'm certain if they were bad you'd be posting them constantly. In the NFL today you need more than "no mistakes." You can't go an entire quarter without a first down. You can't count on 17/27 for 150 some yards from the QB. I guess I'm just not one to pin my hopes on a guy who's not a "hey, get on my shoulders and ride to victory" type.
MDH Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 That Jets D-line is tough and our O-line couldn't handle them. Our guys used be like that. What happened? The OL did a good job overall. There was a patch in the third quarter where they struggled but overall they opened gaps in the run game and protected TT. TT has to learn to get the ball out of his hands when the D blitzes. It's not on the OL when they send more than 5 guys, it's on the QB and WRs.
ddaryl Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I gotta hand it to TT. Even though he didn't have one of those breakout impressive air-attack type games, he was certainly solid and made good decisions protecting the football! It's nice finally having a QB that doesn't give games away on a regular basis. ' TT is a solid QB, and a bright spot on a team that in under performing.. Hopefully he can refine his game some more
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Everyone knows that I am a big Tyrod fan. I thought that yesterday was one of the worst games that he has played this year. He struggled throwing the ball and couldn't get it going on the ground. With that being said he once again took care of the football!! That is so important and underrated. He usually makes some big plays and maybe if Watkins jumped a half-second later we are praising Tyrod's performance again. I really believe that he is going to be the guy. I love his football instincts. He has a really good feel for the game. I'll need to watch the all-22 on that one, Kirby. You may be right, but what I suspect is that the throw came in in a position that Revis can make a play, and that Sammy jumped to box him out.
Jobot Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) I'll need to watch the all-22 on that one, Kirby. You may be right, but what I suspect is that the throw came in in a position that Revis can make a play, and that Sammy jumped to box him out. disagree. it looked to me like a poorly timed jump, Watkins had a step on Revis. I would say that Watkins was a little tight towards the beginning of the game (see the dropped pass from stone-hands) The throw should have been more to the right to allow Watkins to run after it. Trying to arc it in perfectly makes for a much lower percentage completion chance. Very close play though, I think if Watkins had just run through the ball he could have had it, Revis maybe gets a hand in either way. Edited November 13, 2015 by Jobot
Beerball Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Can't say no mistakes, but no turnovers is a very good thing. He rushed himself at times when he didn't have to & took an unnecessary sack. Still(IMO) has to show teams he can beat them from the pocket.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Can't say no mistakes, but no turnovers is a very good thing. He rushed himself at times when he didn't have to & took an unnecessary sack. Still(IMO) has to show teams he can beat them from the pocket. This is what I'm trying to say, only failing with words. Thanks ball of beer.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 In the NFL today you need more than "no mistakes." You can't go an entire quarter without a first down. You can't count on 17/27 for 150 some yards from the QB. I guess I'm just not one to pin my hopes on a guy who's not a "hey, get on my shoulders and ride to victory" type. Fair enough, except that is exactly what he did at Tennessee. So if we are keeping score he has 1 single handed victory and zero games given away and is 5-2 as a starter. He was very good in both Miami games and the Colts game. He was not great against the Pats in the 1st half but very good in the second half. The defense gave up like 500 passing yards in that game. I don't care who is playing QB if you give up 500 yards in the air your team is probably in trouble.
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Yeah but he only completed 63%. Time to bench him /s True, but Skrine is as good as Cromartie at this point.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 disagree. it looked to me like a poorly timed jump, Watkins had a step on Revis. I would say that Watkins was a little tight towards the beginning of the game (see the dropped pass from stone-hands) The throw should have been more to the right to allow Watkins to run after it. Trying to arc it in perfectly makes for a much lower percentage completion chance. Very close play though, I think if Watkins had just run through the ball he could have had it, Revis maybe gets a hand in either way. Like I said, I'll want to watch the all-22 before casting any judgments, but Sammy has demonstrated, very consistently, the desire to run straight through a ball rather than posting up, so I'm assuming he had a reason for doing so.
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'll need to watch the all-22 on that one, Kirby. You may be right, but what I suspect is that the throw came in in a position that Revis can make a play, and that Sammy jumped to box him out. It was a "good enough" throw that could have and quite possibly should have been caught. Just compare it with Fitz's deep throws. His throw to Watkins in the end zone (which Watkins caught) was a great throw but the coverage was perfect--Revis rode Watkins out of bounds. If he had beaten Revis, that's an easy in-bounds td catch for Watkins.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 It was a "good enough" throw that could have and quite possibly should have been caught. Just compare it with Fitz's deep throws. His throw to Watkins in the end zone (which Watkins caught) was a great throw but the coverage was perfect--Revis rode Watkins out of bounds. If he had beaten Revis, that's an easy in-bounds td catch for Watkins. I'm sure it was. I'm speaking as to why he stopped and jumped rather than running through the ball.
FragileSammy Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 He made a monumental mistake when he took a 7 yard sack near the Jets' goal line when he ran OOB instead of throwing it away. That was the only play of his that had me yelling at the TV a little bit
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'm sure it was. I'm speaking as to why he stopped and jumped rather than running through the ball. Sammy did not have a great game. Maybe he was too amped up. He dropped a couple too. One was a tough catch but his bobble almost resulted in a pick, and the other one was just a straight drop. He'll bounce back.
John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 The OL did a good job overall. There was a patch in the third quarter where they struggled but overall they opened gaps in the run game and protected TT. TT has to learn to get the ball out of his hands when the D blitzes. It's not on the OL when they send more than 5 guys, it's on the QB and WRs. I still think there is a lot of improvement to be had on the OL.......that jets DL completely overwhelmed them at times. The east west play calling and running out of the shotgun did not help.......but when a opposing team is going to contain your mobile threat QB in the pocket....your OL better give him a pocket to throw from They are improving in their run blocking
Maddog69 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Fair enough, except that is exactly what he did at Tennessee. So if we are keeping score he has 1 single handed victory and zero games given away and is 5-2 as a starter. He was very good in both Miami games and the Colts game. He was not great against the Pats in the 1st half but very good in the second half. The defense gave up like 500 passing yards in that game. I don't care who is playing QB if you give up 500 yards in the air your team is probably in trouble. To be fair, he sucked for most of the Tennessee game and only needed the miraculous runs because he was struggling to read the defense and hit receivers with passes. So giving credit for "single handedly victory" is probably a bit generous, in my opinion. He was able to recover from his poor play to get the win and deserves credit for that but single handed? Does the defense get credit for holding Tennessee to 13 points despite 7 punts and numerous 3 and outs from Taylor and the offense? As far as I can tell from the game stats, Tyrod had about 20 yds passing in the first half.
ricojes Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 If the ball was thrown to the right, it's most likely 6. Sammy even pointed to the right after. I do not think it was catchable because of the speed at which Sammy was running and the angle in which he had to adjust to get to the ball. Just a poorly thrown ball if that was the correct route, but we'll never know if he was to go straight up the field or to the right...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 If the ball was thrown to the right, it's most likely 6. Sammy even pointed to the right after. I do not think it was catchable because of the speed at which Sammy was running and the angle in which he had to adjust to get to the ball. Just a poorly thrown ball if that was the correct route, but we'll never know if he was to go straight up the field or to the right... It's one of those things they will work out as they play more together I think. Tyrod placed the ball over the top expecting Sammy to keep running and Sammy expected the ball to be more towards the middle of the field so he could have space to go get it.
John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I dont inhabit other teams forums....but I do wonder QBs that are considered "elite' how many times to fans have these same conversations about them while other teams fawn over their qb wishing they had them. I bet it happens a lot
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