K D Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 They just had a segment on Sports Center about the keys to the game. It's fine if they think the Jets will win but it was full of so much inaccurate info that it was making my head spin 1) the Bills have a sputtering offense that has only scored 17 or fewer points in our 4 wins. Wtf? 2) the Jets have a great secondary that can play man on the Bills receivers and shut them down. Oh really? Last I checked they are starting backups at both safety spots and at one of the CB's. 3)Mark Sclereth said the Bills defense isn't playing well because the DL has to drop back in coverage. Didn't he watch the last game? Or did he just go by what he read in the newspaper last month? 4) the Jets have an overall better team with more talent. Wtf they can't be serious Just completely idiotic and ignorant. I can't believe they would spread such nonsense to the nation. I have friends from college that live elsewhere that buy into this nonsense and then repeat it to me and I just have to roll my eyes. Nice work ESPN "experts"
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 They just had a segment on Sports Center about the keys to the game. It's fine if they think the Jets will win but it was full of so much inaccurate info that it was making my head spin 1) the Bills have a sputtering offense that has only scored 17 or fewer points in our 4 wins. Wtf? 2) the Jets have a great secondary that can play man on the Bills receivers and shut them down. Oh really? Last I checked they are starting backups at both safety spots and at one of the CB's. 3)Mark Sclereth said the Bills defense isn't playing well because the DL has to drop back in coverage. Didn't he watch the last game? Or did he just go by what he read in the newspaper last month? 4) the Jets have an overall better team with more talent. Wtf they can't be serious Just completely idiotic and ignorant. I can't believe they would spread such nonsense to the nation. I have friends from college that live elsewhere that buy into this nonsense and then repeat it to me and I just have to roll my eyes. Nice work ESPN "experts" I think you could make this argument, TBH.
thebandit27 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I think you could make this argument, TBH. The only place that I think the Jets have a clear advantage in talent is at LB. I might give them the nod at WR since they're top 3 are healthy and Buffalo is missing Harvin, but I think that's a debate. If we go down position-by-position, they have it better at LT and C, but Buffalo has better OGs, so OL is probably a wash.
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) The only place that I think the Jets have a clear advantage in talent is at LB. I might give them the nod at WR since they're top 3 are healthy and Buffalo is missing Harvin, but I think that's a debate. If we go down position-by-position, they have it better at LT and C, but Buffalo has better OGs, so OL is probably a wash. D-line is at best a wash too, especially when you consider what our D-line has been doing, and with Kyle out. CB, Bills slight edge. S wash, full of backups. RB, Bills if McCoy is healthy. I wanna say QB is Bills, depending on how Taylor handles the pressure and contain. At the end of the day, they have a defense that's top 5 and 1st against the run. They're certainly performing better than us. It's an arguable point. Edited November 12, 2015 by FireChan
K D Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 The only place that I think the Jets have a clear advantage in talent is at LB. I might give them the nod at WR since they're top 3 are healthy and Buffalo is missing Harvin, but I think that's a debate. If we go down position-by-position, they have it better at LT and C, but Buffalo has better OGs, so OL is probably a wash. Yes beat me to it. Position by position there's no way you can look at their lineup tonight vs ours and say it's more talented so we will lose. If anything it's a wash at many positions. They have Revis but a lot of backup players in their secondary. Brandon Marshall is a beast but Sammy is playing well now too. They don't have players as talented as McCoy, Clay, Tyrod. We certainly don't have a talent deficit going into this matchup D-line is at best a wash too, especially when you consider what our D-line has been doing, and with Kyle out. CB, Bills slight edge. S wash, full of backups. RB, Bills if McCoy is healthy. I wanna say QB is Bills, depending on how Taylor handles the pressure and contain. At the end of the day, they have a defense that's top 5 and 1st against the run. They're certainly performing better than us. It's an arguable point. It's arguable that they have comparable talent but not so much talent that it gives them any sort of advantage which is what Sclereth was saying. It was one of his keys to the game and a reason why we would lose and that's just laughable
ddaryl Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 They just had a segment on Sports Center about the keys to the game. It's fine if they think the Jets will win but it was full of so much inaccurate info that it was making my head spin 1) the Bills have a sputtering offense that has only scored 17 or fewer points in our 4 wins. Wtf? 2) the Jets have a great secondary that can play man on the Bills receivers and shut them down. Oh really? Last I checked they are starting backups at both safety spots and at one of the CB's. 3)Mark Sclereth said the Bills defense isn't playing well because the DL has to drop back in coverage. Didn't he watch the last game? Or did he just go by what he read in the newspaper last month? 4) the Jets have an overall better team with more talent. Wtf they can't be serious Just completely idiotic and ignorant. I can't believe they would spread such nonsense to the nation. I have friends from college that live elsewhere that buy into this nonsense and then repeat it to me and I just have to roll my eyes. Nice work ESPN "experts" NYC big market, Buffalo small market They cater to big markets to maintain their advertising money....I never watch ESPN SC... the only time i will watch ESPN is tonight and that will be it
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Yes beat me to it. Position by position there's no way you can look at their lineup tonight vs ours and say it's more talented so we will lose. If anything it's a wash at many positions. They have Revis but a lot of backup players in their secondary. Brandon Marshall is a beast but Sammy is playing well now too. They don't have players as talented as McCoy, Clay, Tyrod. We certainly don't have a talent deficit going into this matchup It's arguable that they have comparable talent but not so much talent that it gives them any sort of advantage which is what Sclereth was saying. It was one of his keys to the game and a reason why we would lose and that's just laughable Like I said, their defense is performing much better than we are. They may be more talented at what they are being asked to do, than our players are at what they are being asked to do.
thebandit27 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Like I said, their defense is performing much better than we are. They may be more talented at what they are being asked to do, than our players are at what they are being asked to do. I think diggz is saying that had Schlereth simply said that the Jets' D is performing better right now, then he'd have a point. Simply stating that the Jets are the more talented team doesn't really have much foundation in reality.
BUFFALOTONE Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I think Mangold is on the shelf as well. There's a simple solution to this, kick the bejeesus out of them tonight.
thebandit27 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Garrison Sanborn > Tanner Purdum /thread You looked that up I think Mangold is on the shelf as well. There's a simple solution to this, kick the bejeesus out of them tonight. Expected to play
LB3 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) You looked that up Yeah I'd have to either be family or crazy to know that off the top of my head. Edited November 12, 2015 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I think diggz is saying that had Schlereth simply said that the Jets' D is performing better right now, then he'd have a point. Simply stating that the Jets are the more talented team doesn't really have much foundation in reality. Fair enough. It's actually a great matchup. I'm excited to see our CB's on Marshall and Decker. The guy I'm most worried about is Kerley.
Steve in Carolina Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 NYC big market, Buffalo small market They cater to big markets to maintain their advertising money....I never watch ESPN SC... the only time i will watch ESPN is tonight and that will be it Why would you watch it tonight when the Bills are on NFL network
LB3 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Why would you watch it tonight when the Bills are on NFL network To watch them talk about the Bills dominant victory of course.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 almost all of our losses have come while we've been shorthanded. we lose to the pats full strength because we take 114yds in penalties and miss a PAT and 2pt conversion, and STILL only lost by 8. this team healthy is a serious threat. i say we beat the Jets solidly tonight.
plenzmd1 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The only place that I think the Jets have a clear advantage in talent is at LB. I might give them the nod at WR since they're top 3 are healthy and Buffalo is missing Harvin, but I think that's a debate. If we go down position-by-position, they have it better at LT and C, but Buffalo has better OGs, so OL is probably a wash. Manish Metta on GR yesterday said that LB is a very weak position on the Jets. So maybe right now both groups suck? Our LB's be okay if they would just make tackles when they have the oportuinity
dulles Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Garrison Sanborn > Tanner Purdum /thread I'm between a rock and hard place...I totally agree...but if I comment, what happens to the thread?
Buffalos#1Fan Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Bills have better talent across the boards, just worse coaching and injuries.
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Manish Metta on GR yesterday said that LB is a very weak position on the Jets. So maybe right now both groups suck? Our LB's be okay if they would just make tackles when they have the oportuinity I didn't hear the segment with Manish but he's probably referring to their missed tackles and inability to stop the running game on the edges/in space. It is very similar to the Bills. Good run D up the middle, bad on the swing pass. Edited November 12, 2015 by YoloinOhio
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