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You believe cultural identities are important but you are in favor of westernization - what you really believe is that christian European cultural identities are important but other cultural identities not so much especially if it effects your standard of living.

 

This is a stupidly fallacious argument.

 

East Asia proves you wrong.

 

Again.

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And they're more than welcome to continue their goat-!@#$ing ways. In their old shithole countries, in their traditional goat-!@#$ing ways. Not here, not in Europe.

 

Yeah...you all keep confusing "Westernization" with "modernization" or "liberalization." They're NOT THE SAME THING.

 

In fact, the whole "You have to become like us, or keep scrabbling in the dirt" attitude is exactly why they consider themselves oppressed by the West.

 

Excellent point. The question remains what's wrong with Arab and Persian culture?

 

Very little, in fact.

 

That's as dumb a question as focusing on the Branch Davidians and asking what's wrong with Christian culture.

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Yeah...you all keep confusing "Westernization" with "modernization" or "liberalization." They're NOT THE SAME THING.

 

In fact, the whole "You have to become like us, or keep scrabbling in the dirt" attitude is exactly why they consider themselves oppressed by the West.

Westernization in the way it's being discussed is synonymous with modern economic and government structures, and social liberalization.

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Yeah...you all keep confusing "Westernization" with "modernization" or "liberalization." They're NOT THE SAME THING.

 

In fact, the whole "You have to become like us, or keep scrabbling in the dirt" attitude is exactly why they consider themselves oppressed by the West.

 

Very little, in fact.

 

That's as dumb a question as focusing on the Branch Davidians and asking what's wrong with Christian culture.

I'm just glad that rich American didn't support and help export Branch Davidians like rich Saudis supported and exported Wahhabism

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I'm just glad that rich American didn't support and help export Branch Davidians like rich Saudis supported and exported Wahhabism

 

So are you saying that this particular Arab export is a lesser culture?

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So are you saying that this particular Arab export is a lesser culture?

 

I wouldn't say a lesser culture I'd say a more aggressive culture, less tolerant, and more violence prone to both other religions and other Islamic practice.

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I wouldn't say a lesser culture I'd say a more aggressive culture, less tolerant, and more violence prone to both other religions and other Islamic practice.

 

So sounds like you agree with TYTT

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I'm just glad that rich American didn't support and help export Branch Davidians like rich Saudis supported and exported Wahhabism

 

No, they support the fundamentalist Christians that perpetrate the War on Women.

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I wouldn't say a lesser culture I'd say a more aggressive culture, less tolerant, and more violence prone to both other religions and other Islamic practice.

and from what I've seen one that is more rigid to change (assimilation). No thank you. Let the Arab countries take them where the location and culture is much closer to home. That and too much risk of bad apples getting in here.

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and from what I've seen one that is more rigid to change (assimilation). No thank you. Let the Arab countries take them where the location and culture is much closer to home. That and too much risk of bad apples getting in here.

You realize I'm talking about a small sect of Islam around 5-7 million out of 2 billion Muslims and while I think they are more prone to violence than other Islamic sects it's probably 1 in 500 engaged in violence or 1 in 100 who engage in or directly support violence.

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You realize I'm talking about a small sect of Islam around 5-7 million out of 2 billion Muslims and while I think they are more prone to violence than other Islamic sects it's probably 1 in 500 engaged in violence or 1 in 100 who engage in or directly support violence.

I have no confidence that we can filter them out so no to all. Frankly, these people IMO are not worth it. Until more "peaceful" Muslims stand up against the radicals, I have little respect or sympathy for them.

  • 1 month later...
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Police: Just Ten Per Cent Of Migrants Entering Germany Have Identity Checked http://bit.ly/1UXglRn




Belgium Arrests Five in Paris Attacks Probe: Prosecutors http://bit.ly/22kStvO





Large Number Of Refugees To Germany May Not Be Able To Find Work: Bundesbank http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/21/large-number-of-refugees-to-germany-may-not-be-able-to-find-work-bundesbank/





More than 1 million migrants have crossed into Europe this year, migration organization says. http://bsun.md/1J36LKY





French border guards 'colluding' with gangs smuggling migrants into Britain ...... http://bit.ly/1UXbJuq

  • 2 weeks later...
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Mass sexual assaults on New Year’s Eve in Cologne add fuel to migration hostility

 

“Arab or North African” appearance of organized groups stokes politics of migration and immigration.

 

 

 

 

 

"German authorities said on Tuesday that coordinated attacks in which young women were sexually harassed and robbed by hundreds of young men..."

"... on New Year’s Eve in the western city of Cologne were unprecedented in scale and nature," the NYT reports.

 

The assault, which went largely unreported for days, set off a national outcry after the Cologne police described the attackers as young men “who appeared to have a North African or Arabic” background, based on testimony from victims and witnesses.... Germany took in more than one million migrants last year.... Heiko Maas, Germany’s justice minister, warned on Tuesday against linking the assaults to the influx of refugees, saying that the ethnicity of the perpetrators was irrelevant.

 

New Nordic border checks spark emergency EU meeting
German, Swedish and Danish ministers set to wrangle over closed borders in Brussels
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I guess the future does not belong to those who protest the rape-y followers of the prophet Mohammed.

 

 

if you import rape culture you get more rapes!

 

 

 

The narrative is back on track: all those sexual assaults are really *Germany's* fault. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/09/opinion/germanys-post-cologne-hysteria.html

 

It's kinda like blaming the women for being raped. Thanks for the war on women, New York Times!

 

 

 

And this is in one city. 379 separate cases of "refugees" sexually assaulting women in public on NYE............................................. Just one city.

 

 

 

 

3jLZ5hHA_bigger.jpgPBS NewsHourVerified account @NewsHour 14h14 hours ago

New Year's assaults stoke tensions over migrants in Germany. MalcolmBrabant reports http://to.pbs.org/1IVdlna

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