Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I guess marine thinks it's easier to force them to leave? Who? Jews? It isn't french people terrorizing jews. This is a position which, when taken to it's logical ends, contends that there is no right or wrong, and that any one individual's perception is in fact reality. It disallows that anarchists smashing windows and assaulting people in Berkley are well within their rights, and that ISIS members beheading infidels and tossing homosexuals off buildings are justified. It gives moral license to the atrocities committed by Mao, Hitler, Lenin, and Mussolini. It puts Kim Jung Un on equal footing with Mother Theresa. Backwards. Broken. Tired. THIS. The minute we say it's ok for men in those...shitholes are allowed to treat their women as cattle, we've abandoned all moral authority.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Who? Jews? It isn't french people terrorizing jews. THIS. The minute we say it's ok for men in those...shitholes are allowed to treat their women as cattle, we've abandoned all moral authority. Funny that's not what I said. Marine Le pen isn't the one terrorizing Jews but she clearly will take measures so that they leave France given that there is a very large population that has both Israeli and French citizenship. This is a position which, when taken to it's logical ends, contends that there is no right or wrong, and that any one individual's perception is in fact reality. It allows that anarchists smashing windows and assaulting people in Berkley are well within their rights, and that ISIS members beheading infidels and tossing homosexuals off buildings are justified. It gives moral license to the atrocities committed by Mao, Hitler, Lenin, and Mussolini. It puts Kim Jung Un on equal footing with Mother Theresa. Backwards. Broken. Tired. I've been arguing in this thread since the beginning that Arab culture before the Islamists took power was open and free. I have never taken the position that Islamic societies that practice Sharia law are equal to our own. As I mentioned earlier, as Quebec is primarily french speaking, we have a lot of migrants from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Lebanon who often tell me that their societies were open and inclusive and changed at one point which is why they left. Morocco/Tunisia in my opinion still is relatively open but things are changing. That's what I have an issue with. Edited February 14, 2017 by meazza
boyst Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 If I did would I spend time on this board and support the Bills? That's because you group people between left and right. Some people have nuanced opinions. You should give it a try. She said it because she's an anti-semite and she wants the Jews to leave France and go to Israel. the nuanced people allow lepen to be excused because they value her ability to speak freely. The nuanced people allow Hillary to commit major crimes because she has experience in doing so. They allow trump to be a complete jackass because he speaks their dark sided thoughts. They excuse their moralities on the principle of tolerance. How tolerant do you want to be on morals? What kind of backbone do ya have, you frenchman?
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 the nuanced people allow lepen to be excused because they value her ability to speak freely. The nuanced people allow Hillary to commit major crimes because she has experience in doing so. They allow trump to be a complete jackass because he speaks their dark sided thoughts. They excuse their moralities on the principle of tolerance. How tolerant do you want to be on morals? What kind of backbone do ya have, you frenchman? She's allowed to speak freely but she shouldn't be elected. I don't like Hillary. I don't like Trump.
grinreaper Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Funny that's not what I said. Marine Le pen isn't the one terrorizing Jews but she clearly will take measures so that they leave France given that there is a very large population that has both Israeli and French citizenship. I've been arguing in this thread since the beginning that Arab culture before the Islamists took power was open and free. I have never taken the position that Islamic societies that practice Sharia law are equal to our own. As I mentioned earlier, as Quebec is primarily french speaking, we have a lot of migrants from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Lebanon who often tell me that their societies were open and inclusive and changed at one point which is why they left. Morocco/Tunisia in my opinion still is relatively open but things are changing. That's what I have an issue with. Take a look at this and tell us how enlightened predominately Muslim nations want to be: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/ Sharia as Divine Revelation gsi2-chp1-1 In 17 of the 23 countries where the question was asked, at least half of Muslims say sharia is the revealed word of God. (For more information on sharia see text box.) In no country are Muslims significantly more likely to say sharia was developed by men than to say it is the revealed word of God. Acceptance of sharia as the revealed word of God is high across South Asia and most of the Middle East and North Africa. For example, roughly eight-in-ten Muslims (81%) in Pakistan and Jordan say sharia is the revealed word of God, as do clear majorities in most other countries surveyed in these two regions. Only in Lebanon is opinion more closely divided: 49% of Muslims say sharia is the divine word of God, while 38% say men have developed sharia from God’s word.
Chef Jim Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I do agree with you Chef Jim. But i do have one comment: Is the fact that America does not have an official language lead to this type of mentality, where I will just keep my language instead of being motivated to learn English? No. It's because we just sit back and allow it to happen. Of course you can't force people to assimilate we need to make it so they want to be American. You know how we do that? I'll tell ya how. We make America Great Again!!
boyst Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Funny that's not what I said. Marine Le pen isn't the one terrorizing Jews but she clearly will take measures so that they leave France given that there is a very large population that has both Israeli and French citizenship. I've been arguing in this thread since the beginning that Arab culture before the Islamists took power was open and free. I have never taken the position that Islamic societies that practice Sharia law are equal to our own. As I mentioned earlier, as Quebec is primarily french speaking, we have a lot of migrants from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Lebanon who often tell me that their societies were open and inclusive and changed at one point which is why they left. Morocco/Tunisia in my opinion still is relatively open but things are changing. That's what I have an issue with. I support open expression of all religion that is legal by the constitution. Allowing anyone to wear a toaster on their head and pray to Ronald McDonald is a-okay by me. But, when you have radicalized religion and fail to blame the religion you fail to blame the problem. It isn't all on religion. But itstarts there and the aability for one to exercise whatever they would like becomes in jeopardy when one side has more power/muscle/guns/money/influence over another. In this country that was Christianity. We built ourselves on those teachings. We believe a little baby was born to a virgin and walked in water. Died and came back to move a big rock and atone for all our !@#$ups. But, just like every other principle religion we have a set of morals and guidelines which to I've by and enforcing those is the institution on which we must base our culture. A somewhat related example. When oshaa comes in to your building to inspect your safety. If your rules transcend their rules and you are found to have broken your own rule though not an Osha rule you are on violation and can be fined. Why not do this to religion? Why let some religion lie, cheat and !@#$ up? Why can't we simply hold individuals responsible regardless of religion skin color sex or culture?
B-Man Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Geert Wilders Vows to Take the Netherlands Out of EU, Leads Polls Ahead of Election Wilders proposes 11-point programme to “de-Islamise” the Netherlands, end EU-mandated Open Borders
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Geert Wilders Vows to Take the Netherlands Out of EU, Leads Polls Ahead of Election Wilders proposes 11-point programme to “de-Islamise” the Netherlands, end EU-mandated Open Borders This is what I'm talking about! Bring the whole corrupt house of cards down.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 This is what I'm talking about! Bring the whole corrupt house of cards down. Right: Wilders has campaigned to stop what he views as the "Islamisation of the Netherlands". He has compared the Quran to Mein Kampf and has campaigned to have the book banned in the Netherlands.[6][7][8] He advocates ending immigration from Muslim countries,[6][9] and supports banning the construction of new mosques. Mind you it's wiki but I'm sure you're ok with this.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Mind you it's wiki but I'm sure you're ok with this. You're damned right I am.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 You're damned right I am. As long as your conscience is clear you racist.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 As long as your conscience is clear you racist. Islam isn't a race. It's a set of VERY bad ideas, and one that should be torn apart and thrown away. I'm not afraid of the likes of you calling me a racist.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Islam isn't a race. It's a set of VERY bad ideas, and one that should be torn apart and thrown away. I'm not afraid of the likes of you calling me a racist. You know who else wanted to get rid of people of a certain religion? The likes me of? That's funny you bigot. Edited February 14, 2017 by meazza
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 You know who else wanted to get rid of people of a certain religion? The likes me of? That's funny you bigot. Yes, the likes of you. The likes of a surrenderer to cultural relativism. The likes of someone who lives in a country that has some of the tightest border controls for immigration on earth, but dares to lecture people who live in another country that's had its laws abused. Yes. The likes of YOU. And again, if you're brought to calling someone a "racist" who disagrees with you...you've already lost.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 Yes, the likes of you. The likes of a surrenderer to cultural relativism. The likes of someone who lives in a country that has some of the tightest border controls for immigration on earth, but dares to lecture people who live in another country that's had its laws abused. Yes. The likes of YOU. And again, if you're brought to calling someone a "racist" who disagrees with you...you've already lost. I didn't call you a racist because you disagree with me, I called you a racist because of this: Islam isn't a race. It's a set of VERY bad ideas, and one that should be torn apart and thrown away. Canada has tight border controls? Based on what? And this statement alone means you have no reading comprehension. Congrats, we'll call you Gatorman: The likes of a surrenderer to cultural relativism.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 I didn't call you a racist because you disagree with me, I called you a racist because of this: So, battling against bad, antiquated, misogynistic, anti-democratic religions is racist? Ha, I'll take the label knowing that I'm on the right side. Canada has tight border controls? Based on what? http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/apply.asp Unless you're a "skilled worker," are going to start a business or are applying to join family that's already Canadian...good luck. What those rules mean is that the vast majority of the 11 MILLION illegal central-american aliens in the US wouldn't qualify to enter canada.
meazza Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 So, battling against bad, antiquated, misogynistic, anti-democratic religions is racist? Ha, I'll take the label knowing that I'm on the right side. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/apply.asp Unless you're a "skilled worker," are going to start a business or are applying to join family that's already Canadian...good luck. What those rules mean is that the vast majority of the 11 MILLION illegal central-american aliens in the US wouldn't qualify to enter canada. First of all, the position you're taking is against all Muslims and not just the extremists. That's why you're a racist. Second, I have never commented on this forum about Canadian immigration policy and I don't know why me saying that Marine Le Pen and the rest of the European far right are disgusting politicians who hopefully do not get elected has anything to do with American or Canadian immigration policy.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 First of all, the position you're taking is against all Muslims and not just the extremists. That's why you're a racist. Second, I have never commented on this forum about Canadian immigration policy and I don't know why me saying that Marine Le Pen and the rest of the European far right are disgusting politicians who hopefully do not get elected has anything to do with American or Canadian immigration policy. Apologies. I'm crossing over topics, I know you've been a supporter of amnesty in the past. And again I don't see how stating the obvious: that Islam as a belief system is incompatible with secular western society makes me a racist. It's not racism, it's common sense.
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