KD in CA Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 3:13 PM, ALF said: If that article is true , good grief Muslims despising Christians? Whoever could have predicted that!!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 3:13 PM, ALF said: If that article is true , good grief Why are people so reluctant to think that Islam and Muslims on the whole are hateful and aggressive toward western peoples?
meazza Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 3:43 PM, joesixpack said: Why are people so reluctant to think that Islam and Muslims on the whole are hateful and aggressive toward western peoples? Because they aren't.
Nanker Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 People aren't reluctant to think that, or Muslims on the whole aren't hateful and aggressive toward the west?
meazza Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:09 PM, Nanker said: People aren't reluctant to think that, or Muslims on the whole aren't hateful and aggressive toward the west? My gf is Muslim Algerian. She's hateful towards me 1 week per month.
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:14 PM, meazza said: My gf is Muslim Algerian. She's hateful towards me 1 week per month. Is that sexist or racist? Or both?
Joe Miner Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:14 PM, meazza said: My gf is Muslim Algerian. She's hateful towards me 1 week per month. Try referring to that as her unclean week, obviously during that week. See what her reaction is.
meazza Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:28 PM, Joe Miner said: Try referring to that as her unclean week, obviously during that week. See what her reaction is. You really don't want me to post here anymore that badly?
Chef Jim Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:30 PM, meazza said: You really don't want me to post here anymore that badly? You know when we'll know you've taken Joe's advice? When we see your head rolling down a flight of stairs that's when <just in case 4merper4mer misses this>
Azalin Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 3:13 PM, ALF said: If that article is true , good grief I don't doubt for a second that it's true, but I think I need to point out that the problem is as much a cultural one as it is a religious one, if not more so. Western culture allows for the open practice of religion within a primarily secular society, which is completely different than it is in many middle eastern countries where religious doctrine forms the basis for their societal structure. While people in the US and Europe are comparatively open-minded and tolerant of cultural differences, they're not nearly so. I don't have the ability to explain my point as well as I'd like, but I think that despite the fact that the refugees in Germany are being said to target Christians, what they're attacking is as much 'westernism' as it is people of a differing faith.
Prickly Pete Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) On 11/18/2016 at 5:19 PM, Azalin said: I don't doubt for a second that it's true, but I think I need to point out that the problem is as much a cultural one as it is a religious one, if not more so. Western culture allows for the open practice of religion within a primarily secular society, which is completely different than it is in many middle eastern countries where religious doctrine forms the basis for their societal structure. While people in the US and Europe are comparatively open-minded and tolerant of cultural differences, they're not nearly so. I don't have the ability to explain my point as well as I'd like, but I think that despite the fact that the refugees in Germany are being said to target Christians, what they're attacking is as much 'westernism' as it is people of a differing faith. In other words, it's not just Christians they attack, it's everyone and anyone who isn't Muslim. Hmm...looks more like a religious problem, than a cultural problem to me. Edited November 18, 2016 by HoF Watkins
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 4:00 PM, meazza said: Because they aren't.
Chef Jim Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 8:34 PM, joesixpack said: On 11/18/2016 at 4:00 PM, meazza said: Because they aren't. And this demonstrates what exactly?
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 8:34 PM, joesixpack said: What does Oakland have to do with this discussion?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 8:36 PM, Chef Jim said: And this demonstrates what exactly? This is one of about, oh a billion such images easily find-able of arabs/muslims protesting the US.
Chef Jim Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 8:41 PM, joesixpack said: This is one of about, oh a billion such images easily find-able of arabs/muslims protesting the US. A billion? Ok got it Because that's one massive anti-US/Israel demonstration you posted there. I counted what, 20 people there. So that means there are 20 billion of them? That's impressive.
KD in CA Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 8:36 PM, Chef Jim said: And this demonstrates what exactly? That it's fun to burn ****?
Azalin Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 7:39 PM, HoF Watkins said: In other words, it's not just Christians they attack, it's everyone and anyone who isn't Muslim. Hmm...looks more like a religious problem, than a cultural problem to me. That's not even close to what I said, but if that's an easier way for you to look at it, then by all means.
Prickly Pete Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 9:44 PM, Azalin said: That's not even close to what I said, but if that's an easier way for you to look at it, then by all means. What are you saying then?
Azalin Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 9:52 PM, HoF Watkins said: What are you saying then? I'm saying that the difference in cultures in as much the cause for the violence, if not more so, than the difference in religion.
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