reddogblitz Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) One more reason not to sign up for FakeBook. She does sound like an impressive young person though. Edited August 6, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/business/media/alex-jones-free-speech-not-protected.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/business/media/alex-jones-free-speech-not-protected.html What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: What a joke. This, Joe, is exactly the reason I argue with you about the absoluteness of the First Amendment protections on speech and press. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This, Joe, is exactly the reason I argue with you about the absoluteness of the First Amendment protections on speech and press. And this is why I argue for censorship of progressive sources. THEY'VE ALREADY FIRED THE FIRST SHOTS. If one side is able to do this, and the other isn't, that's creating an imbalance that must be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: And this is why I argue for censorship of progressive sources. THEY'VE ALREADY FIRED THE FIRST SHOTS. If one side is able to do this, and the other isn't, that's creating an imbalance that must be corrected. If censorship is permitted by the government, then censorship is permitted by the government; and you'll be subject to the whims of whomever is in charge of the government at any given time. You're advocating for the rule of man rather than the rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: If censorship is permitted by the government, then censorship is permitted by the government; and you'll be subject to the whims of whomever is in charge of the government at any given time. You're advocating for the rule of man rather than the rule of law. Question: does the left advocate for censorship of the right? Have they implemented censorship in the public domain already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Question: does the left advocate for censorship of the right? Have they implemented censorship in the public domain already? The left's censorship is largely contained to the private sector, with the exception of universities. I could care less what they advocate for. They're free to hold bad opinions. The proper thing is to advocate for free speech and free press. Anything else results in a dystopian future you aren't going to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The left's censorship is largely contained to the private sector, with the exception of universities. I could care less what they advocate for. They're free to hold bad opinions. The proper thing is to advocate for free speech and free press. Anything else results in a dystopian future you aren't going to like. And what is the consequence of one side advocating for free speech when the other side is actively subverting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: And what is the consequence of one side advocating for free speech when the other side is actively subverting it? The same as it's always been, Joe. Free speech has not been the norm for most of human history, and still isn't in most places around the world. It is a human freedom that was thousands of years in the making, and it is a lofty ideal that is worth fighting for; as it will always be challenged by would be despots. This has never changed and will never change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) FakeBook and Tweeter are private enterprises. They can do what they want with their platformS. Rs (free enterprise/less regulation) are against this? Edited August 8, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: FakeBook and Tweeter are private enterprises. They can do what they want with their platformS. Rs (free enterprise/less regulation) are against this? I'm not a republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: I'm not a republican. Are you a free market person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, reddogblitz said: Are you a free market person? Free market: yes. Free trade: no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Free market: yes. Free trade: no. Free markets and free trade are the same thing, Joe. Both speak to laissez-faire conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Free market: yes. Free trade: no. Cool. I agree with you on the censorship thing btw. I believe FakeBook and Tweeter are actively censoring opinions they don't like. But again they are free enterprises and can do what they wish in that regard within reason and the law. I think they "social media" is the most effective tool of population control devised thus far. I suppose it is somewhat debatable if they are actively using it for that or not. Certainly worked for Russia in the 2016 election. My answer is to not use their "services". Voting with my thumbs as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Are you a free market person? Joe is a fascist who wishes to see an absolute and harsh dictatorship which conforms neatly to his world view, and punishes those who believe differently. He doesn't believe in First Amendment protections of any sort. 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Cool. I agree with you on the censorship thing btw. I believe FakeBook and Tweeter are actively censoring opinions they don't like. But again they are free enterprises and can do what they wish in that regard within reason and the law. I think they "social media" is the most effective tool of population control devised thus far. I suppose it is somewhat debatable if they are actively using it for that or not. Certainly worked for Russia in the 2016 election. My answer is to not use their "services". Voting with my thumbs as it were. Facebook was designed by the CIA to do exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Joe is a fascist who wishes to see an absolute and harsh dictatorship which conforms neatly to his world view, and punishes those who believe differently. He doesn't believe in First Amendment protections of any sort. Facebook was designed by the CIA to do exactly that. Yup. Life Log. https://www.wired.com/2004/02/pentagon-kills-lifelog-project/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Joe is a fascist who wishes to see an absolute and harsh dictatorship which conforms neatly to his world view, and punishes those who believe differently. That’s hardly a fair assessment. I’m no book burner. But I’m not an “everything goes” guy. I’m a realist, and someone who can see the dangers the progressive left poses. by the way, I didn’t always think this way. Edited August 8, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, joesixpack said: That’s hardly a fair assessment. I’m no book burner. But I’m not an “everything goes” guy. I’m a realist, and someone who can see the dangers the progressive left poses. by the way, I didn’t always think this way. So, you were once more enlightened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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