D521646 Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 I voted yes and yes, BUT I would like an investigation into them. If the rumors are true and that the big winners are players from each opposing site, then I have a lawsuit waiting to happen. Regulation and oversight is needed to protect the consumer, but that all. It's not gambling in the true sense of the word, and it is up to the state to prove it is. I play seriously and put a lot of effort into my picks each week, matchups, weather, trends and so on.. You can't do that with blackjack and roulette.. Tim-
8-8 Forever? Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 With all the talk of these sites (Yes the commercials are annoying) what is your take on these sites? tear that crap down now. the mafia can't be far behind . its close enough to gambling on sports if you ask me
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 The hypocrisy is what kills me. NYS is saying it's gambling and gambling is illegal. Oh really? Then what's with the NY lottery and the dumb scratch off tickets I get from relatives on my birthday? How about OTB and casinos? Makes no sense. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. They must think we are pretty stupid The lottery isn't gambling. It's a tax on people who can't do math.
Billsmovinup Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Guess they didn't write a big enough campaign check. Edited November 12, 2015 by Billsmovinup
BADOLBILZ Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Being a Brit I have no idea why sports gambling is so frowned upon in the US. It is an everyday part of life here. You go into a soccer stadium and every major club has a "betting partner" firm in the stadium taking bets on the game, you watch a major soccer game on TV and every other advert at half time is for a sports betting firm. It hasn't caused the breakdwon of society as we know it or led to major deprivation..... Why is it so frowned on in America? Or do I not even want to know.....? Maybe because people will literally murder each other over futbol? The threat of being murdered for being caught fixing contests is probably something of a disincentive. Americans don't kill each other for that kind of offense. They just stop buying the product if they think it's fixed......which puts the emphasis on the owners to prevent it. Not really a bad system. For all the violence in US culture.....we are literally mortified by the carnage in soccer.
Saxum Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The lottery isn't gambling. It's a tax on people who can't do math. It is an idiot tax.
What a Tuel Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) It is an idiot tax. It is preying on the hopes of millions of people thinking they can get lucky, and be one of the .00000000001% that wins and becomes part of the 1%. It is actually pretty ironic....but its for the Children! Edited November 12, 2015 by What a Tuel
Freddie's Dead Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 After watching the 60 Minutes piece on these scumb..., er, businessmen, running FanStool and DaftKinks, they should be banned. Trading on insider information (sharks) to swallow the pilot fish (everyday Joe Fantasy fan) whole. They're also to be despised because they have taken over Sunday morning pre-game NFL TV on all 5 networks, and just about every radio broadcast. They're as bad as the online poker site scammers who still haven't paid back the money they stole. When you allow employees to play and win money on your site, it's a surefire formula for cheating and stealing. Did we learn nothing from Ultimate Bet?
GunnerBill Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Maybe because people will literally murder each other over futbol? The threat of being murdered for being caught fixing contests is probably something of a disincentive. Americans don't kill each other for that kind of offense. They just stop buying the product if they think it's fixed......which puts the emphasis on the owners to prevent it. Not really a bad system. For all the violence in US culture.....we are literally mortified by the carnage in soccer. Hmmm. Soccer hasn't suffered too much with match fixing though. Because it is a non-stop game there are really too many variables. Cricket has suffered much more because it is - more akin to football I suppose - a game where there are set starting formations etc so it easier to spot fix one particular outcome for one moment of the game. It isn't just soccer vs football though... I find the whole attitude of American society to betting quite odd.
bobobonators Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The question is not are they legal or not. They are gambling. Which is illegal unless specifically authorized by state law. If you want gambling to be legal, work within the system to legalize gambling. Until then, they are gambling, which is illegal. I do believe that all NFL owners, employees (including refs, players, coaches) should be banned from having an interest in Football gambling. The temptation and the risk is too great. I read where the two companies in question make more than the NFL does per week during the season. They are gambling according to whom? Is season-long fantasy gambling? How about when CBS, espn, yahoo, etc allow you to join a fantasy league halfway through the season, so it's no longer 'season-long'; is that gambling?
GunnerBill Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 They are gambling according to whom? Is season-long fantasy gambling? How about when CBS, espn, yahoo, etc allow you to join a fantasy league halfway through the season, so it's no longer 'season-long'; is that gambling? If you are not staking anything with the aim of winning something it is not gambling.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Hmmm. Soccer hasn't suffered too much with match fixing though. Because it is a non-stop game there are really too many variables. Cricket has suffered much more because it is - more akin to football I suppose - a game where there are set starting formations etc so it easier to spot fix one particular outcome for one moment of the game. It isn't just soccer vs football though... I find the whole attitude of American society to betting quite odd. Yeah I am not really sure why but if the NFL had a scandal like the FIFA scandal the popularity would drop like a rock. We have a low tolerance for the integrity of the games being compromised and the leagues and politicians know it. And we have a ton of competing major team sports options.....MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball......these are all huge. Is cricket very comparable to soccer in popularity and revenues/salaries? Personally, I think the daily fantasy sports are a pretty good way to allow betting without significant risk to affecting the outcome of games........but their advertisements are annoying and very, very misleading......which doesn't seem right considering how hard they blanket tv and the internet with their ads. It's also taking a toll on Vegas.....which is not cool.
/dev/null Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Manufacturing and Industry have moved out of NYS Tax rate is sky high Tax base is dwindling But yeah, focus on banning online gambling and semi-auto weapons. that will solve NYS problems
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 @TheBuffaloNews State Attorney General accuses FanDuel, DraftKings of running illegal bookmaking http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/state/state-attorney-general-accuses-fanduel-draftkings-of-running-illegal-bookmaking-20151117
stony Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Maybe because people will literally murder each other over futbol? The threat of being murdered for being caught fixing contests is probably something of a disincentive. Americans don't kill each other for that kind of offense. They just stop buying the product if they think it's fixed......which puts the emphasis on the owners to prevent it. Not really a bad system. For all the violence in US culture.....we are literally mortified by the carnage in soccer. Ehhhh, fan behavior is bordering on that precipice. Fans attack other teams' fans every week and while I can't recall murders off the top of my head, some horrible stuff leaving people permanently injured have occurred. Yeah I am not really sure why but if the NFL had a scandal like the FIFA scandal the popularity would drop like a rock. We have a low tolerance for the integrity of the games being compromised and the leagues and politicians know it. And we have a ton of competing major team sports options.....MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball......these are all huge. Is cricket very comparable to soccer in popularity and revenues/salaries? Personally, I think the daily fantasy sports are a pretty good way to allow betting without significant risk to affecting the outcome of games........but their advertisements are annoying and very, very misleading......which doesn't seem right considering how hard they blanket tv and the internet with their ads. It's also taking a toll on Vegas.....which is not cool. I disagree. Goodell would be ousted and people would rejoice. For better or worse, the NFL is our FIFA, and despite all the warts, it doesn't look like much will slow it down anytime soon.
pi2000 Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) I use draft kings, it's fun, mostly play the $0.25 or $1 double-ups for NFL and NHL. If I really like my lineup I'll go $10 double-ups. It's not gonna put me in bankruptcy or pay off my house, it just makes it more fun to watch games you otherwise wouldn't care much about... especially NHL which I like watching anyway. That said, it's gambling and should be illegal. Edited November 17, 2015 by pi2000
CountDorkula Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 After watching the 60 Minutes piece on these scumb..., er, businessmen, running FanStool and DaftKinks, they should be banned. Trading on insider information (sharks) to swallow the pilot fish (everyday Joe Fantasy fan) whole. They're also to be despised because they have taken over Sunday morning pre-game NFL TV on all 5 networks, and just about every radio broadcast. They're as bad as the online poker site scammers who still haven't paid back the money they stole. When you allow employees to play and win money on your site, it's a surefire formula for cheating and stealing. Did we learn nothing from Ultimate Bet? If anyone does not believe that this is happening, they are kidding themselves.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 @NewsRadio930 NY @FanDuel entries suspended as of 2:30 this afternoon. http://bit.ly/1SWoLXZ @darrenrovell BREAKING: FanDuel will no longer allow New Yorkers to play its games. Could change on 11/25 depending what judge decides.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 I played both FanDuel and DraftKings for $20 each... DraftKings lost but my FanDuel account has $45 so I'm $5 up on the year. I really enjoy picking a line up and playing new teams each week. My NFL.com Fantasy leagues are great, but playing a few bucks with a chance to win 20k or 50k is exciting. I love it and see this as a skill game and challenge. I think the states are just jealous that so much revenue is being made without them getting their cut, so they are trying to shut it down and figure out a way to cash in. All harmless fun and a great way to enjoy a football weekend.
Protocal69 Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Well I just won $2667 last night on Fanduel NBC Sunday Night, Monday Night football tourney. Entry fee was $5.00
Recommended Posts