dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft.
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. He's a #2 guy. I'd take another WR fairly high.
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 He's a #2 guy. I'd take another WR fairly high. But what does that even mean? Is he really even a #2 guy? He seems to be like...a half-notch above Easley (which makes him depth and someone who should learn special teams). Is he supposed to be in the slot and now he's just failing outside? I mean...I guess I don't really know what a #2 guy is but he seems like a guy who is a non-factor and that doesn't sound like a #2 to me.
Meatplow Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. Here you go.... Think of him as a good blocker He's straight up blown a couple people up out there.
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 But what does that even mean? Is he really even a #2 guy? He seems to be like...a half-notch above Easley (which makes him depth and someone who should learn special teams). Is he supposed to be in the slot and now he's just failing outside? I mean...I guess I don't really know what a #2 guy is but he seems like a guy who is a non-factor and that doesn't sound like a #2 to me. Well we threw the ball 12 times last game, so the #2 WR not getting involved too much isn't that rare considering the circumstances. He's not a "half-notch" above Easley. That's just crazy talk. He's a guy who can hurt you if you don't respect him/worry too much about our #1 WR. I'd still take another WR high because injuries happen, and 3 WR's is basically the base offensive formation.
Captain Hindsight Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Woods is a good receiver. Id hate to lose him
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I love Bob Woods. Like really love him. That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. Edited November 10, 2015 by Rex'sOffense
Haplo848 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Here you go.... Think of him as a good blocker He's straight up blown a couple people up out there. So we're not using phrasing any more? Edited November 10, 2015 by Haplo848
NickelCity Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I don't think he's built a rapport with Tyrod at all yet. Not sure why. Hope it gets sorted.
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. Roman needs one great WR and a great TE. Like Boldin and Vernon Davis. Then an awesome RB. Like Gore. A #2 WR is gonna have inconsistent numbers in this system. Did you draft him in fantasy and are now disappointed? Edited November 10, 2015 by LeGOATski
NickelCity Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 So we're not using phrasing any more? lol
BADOLBILZ Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I just don't see him much and the one end-around he got last week looked terrible (he looked slow--no explosion and couldn't have looked less dangerous). I don't have the coaching tape...and I have seen a FEW replays of him open (he usually throws a tantrum when he doesn't get the ball). I really don't know what to think about Woods' value as a player. It's hard to say. I'm sure if he were with an all-time great QB he would be better...I'm also sure that most WRs are not and that isn't the way you should measure them. Gentlemen, help me understand how I am supposed to feel about Robert Woods. I really don't know...but I would have a soft-lean right now to take another WR fairly high in the draft. It's really hard to judge him but what the Bills really need is a guy who is always open by virtue of his size and catch radius....like Brandon Marshall. If they got healthy and had Marshall they could give up 400 yards on defense every week and still win handily. Had they not traded for Cassel they probably get Marshall. I thought the Bills made some hasty, poor decisions early in the offseason but they deserve credit for identifying and trying to acquire some guys who it appears WOULD have helped them....guys like Marshall, David Harris, La'el Collins.
Captain Hindsight Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 So we're not using phrasing any more? Well played
YoloinOhio Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 That's me too though, I used to love Bob Woods. Really love him. Then the idea of him being some reliable and awesome young counterpart to Sammy faded and now I ... well I don't know what to think anymore. I was just sitting here thinking about the passing game and had the feeling like I won't be excited about the WRs next year unless it has a new #2 that is not on the roster right now. he had 9 catches and a TD just 2 games ago and that was with EJ throwing to him. He's been reliable and productive in his role despite the QB carousel since his rookie year. Are you just upset about the end around? It didn't go anywhere because Felton missed his block and he couldn't ... Go anywhere.
Best Player Available Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 I don't think he's built a rapport with Tyrod at all yet. Not sure why. Hope it gets sorted. it does seem that way. I like him and hope he gets a shot at resigning. his day will come. this O needs some stability. Now that guys are getting healthy he should find his niche.
dayman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) he had 9 catches and a TD just 2 games ago and that was with EJ throwing to him. He's been reliable and productive in his role despite the QB carousel since his rookie year. Are you just upset about the end around? It didn't go anywhere because Felton missed his block and he couldn't ... Go anywhere. Percy and Sammy have been hurt pretty consistently so he's had every opportunity and he's had 2 ok games...(1) 60 yrds and a TD while the Pats were curb stomping us, and (2) a solid 84 yrds on 9 catches and a TD in the freak show that was EJ coming back against the Jags in London. It's not reality to suggest Bob has been anything that numbers can defend. He's halfway through his 3rd season and yet he's never been a catches guy, or a yards guy, or a touchdown guy. Someone said he's a blocking guy? Ok...IDK maybe I've seen him throw some good blocks. I guess his defense is that he's played with EJ and now is in Roman's system which isn't WR2 friendly (point guy made above)? I mean...he just isn't showing me anything this year. I have to turn on Woods at some point and it's shaping up to be next offseason the way things are going. I would like to be swayed but his one big day on a crazy London game v. the jags while EJ was out their flailing in desperation to overcome bouts of insanity isn't going to do it on its own. Edited November 10, 2015 by Rex'sOffense
BaaadThingsMan Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Robert Woods is a honeybadger, in on kick off and return, throwing crackback blocks inside on much bigger guys on offense. His blocking is above average against dbs. All that and he can produce at whatever level the offense needs him to. Every time he's been featured, he's produced. Edited November 10, 2015 by NorCalBillsSabres
FireChan Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Percy and Sammy have been hurt pretty consistently so he's had every opportunity and he's had 2 ok games...(1) 60 yrds and a TD while the Pats were curb stomping us, and (2) a solid 84 yrds on 9 catches and a TD in the freak show that was EJ coming back against the Jags in London. It's not reality to suggest Bob has been anything that numbers can defend. He's halfway through his 3rd season and yet he's never been a catches guy, or a yards guy, or a touchdown guy. Someone said he's a blocking guy? Ok...IDK maybe I've seen him throw some good blocks. I guess his defense is that he's played with EJ and now is in Roman's system which isn't WR2 friendly (point guy made above)? I mean...he just isn't showing me anything this year. I have to turn on Woods at some point and it's shaping up to be next offseason the way things are going. I would like to be swayed but his one big day on a crazy London game v. the jags while EJ was out their flailing in desperation to overcome bouts of insanity isn't going to do it on its own. Are you watching the tape or the stat sheet?
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