GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 You're right that it is an oversimplification, but there is a general feel for who is going to be drafted in the first couple of rounds / who will be available much later on in the draft. As for your example, yes I think that would be an appropriate time to "reach" as the QB would no longer be available the next time the Bills are up. There are players who you can safely project as mid-round draft picks (e.g., Grayson, Petty, Hundley in the 2015 draft). Do you really want to use a coveted first round pick on them? It's a question of value-add with respect to a.) the value of your draft pick, b.) the projected value of the player in question, and c.) the opportunity cost of selecting a different player projected as a true first round talent and potentially missing out on the mid-round player. The Bills did not think EJ was going to be there by their second pick in 2013. The grapevine was suggesting that Philly and Jax both had him as the top QB on their boards and were picking before us in round 2. That might mean Philly and Jax played the smoke and mirrors well - but the Bills didn't want to take that chance clearly.
xsoldier54 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I think we need to draft a couple of LB's, one ILB and one OLB. Second need is still OL and then maybe a wideout. We need a solid backup QB, but I think Tyrod is the man at QB for the foreseeable future.
billsfan89 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 8 more games is a big sample size for Tyrod. If Tyrod shows some improvment as the next 8 games play out then I don't think they will go QB unless a big time prospect falls to their pick (Which with how overdrafted the QB position can be I don't think will happen). O-line or best player avaiable will likely be the best way to go. However it's still possible Tyrod flounders in the last 8 games, so of course you have to wait and see how he plays in the second half of the season.
Santana Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 No, I think that would totally be a waste. We need some O-Line help big time!...probably in the first 2 rounds actually.
mattsox Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Given how Tyrod is playing, do we still feel that the Bills needs to draft a QB with their round 1 pick in the next draft? CBF 100% YES!!! If Tyrod get's hurt, the team is screwed!!!
PromoTheRobot Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 100% YES!!! If Tyrod get's hurt, the team is screwed!!! So draft a QB first round, who you have to play because you drafted him so high, and sit the QB that is actually playing well? Make sense to me.
Maddog69 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I think we should trade up for another wide receiver
NextYearGuys Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Noooooo way. Tyrod is our guy. We just need OL in the draft. Probably LB as well. A WR that falls could be nice as well.
ALF Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 If Taylor keeps making progress , I'am ok with him as the starter. Need help on OL as priority now. If a good QB prospect is avail after 3rd rd take one there.
Niagara Dude Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 You draft a QB and give him a opportunity to learn at a slower pace. I love TT but he is not a franchise QB, good story and has played well but he is not a franchise QB
LeGOATski Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 So draft a QB first round, who you have to play because you drafted him so high, and sit the QB that is actually playing well? Make sense to me. If they draft a great prospect in the 1st and can afford to let him sit while developing, that would be perfect. The Bills and fans have never been patient enough to develop a QB the right way.
BarleyNY Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) So far, no. But I don't think it's a bad idea to do what the Eagles have done with taking a second round pick to be the backup in case of injury. Kolb and Foles were both picked up this way as backups to mobile QBs and both made for ok stopgap starters before getting flipped on trades. Agreed. With Taylor's size and game I think QB is a priority. When I refer to his "game" I mean that running and the threat of him running are big parts of him being successful. Since he doesn't have the size to sustain a lot of punishment the Bills have to have another QB on the roster who can play if/when he gets dinged or badly injured. I think we can all (most of us?) agree that EJ isn't that guy. If they can get their hands on someone who might be better than TT, then that's awesome. If not, get a guy who you think can be a solid, long term backup. But get someone. Somewhere. Make it a priority, but not necessarily in round 1. Edited November 9, 2015 by BarleyNY
Chandler#81 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 IMO, it depends on Free Agency -which comes 1st in the League year. There'll be a couple restructures, I believe, and we'll look for a fast, tall WR and -who knows, maybe Fitz will be available. He is every year and he'd be a fine backup to Tyrod. Im not as down on our OL (assuming we lock up Ritchie & Glenn) as many here are, so BPA wherever we pick is the safest road to travel. Again, just my 2 sense..
klos63 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 You draft a QB and give him a opportunity to learn at a slower pace. I love TT but he is not a franchise QB, good story and has played well but he is not a franchise QB Why not? I know it's early, but there is no reason, based on how he has performed, to rule out him eventually being a franchise QB.
sjjr Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 No Tyrod is proving each week he is the guy going forward. If they could restructure his deal, C.Kaepernick would be a great third guy to add to the mix as a prospect.
The Wiz Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I'd say it depends on 2 things. 1) how tyrod does the rest of the season 2) where the bills are drafting At this point there doesn't appear to be a clear cut,game changing first rounder. I don't doubt they they use either a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a QB regardless of the 2 stipulations I mentioned.
Best Player Available Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Take chad kelly in the 6-7th. LOL
The Wiz Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Take chad kelly in the 6-7th. LOL Assuming he enters the draft. Only a junior right now. Would probably be smart of him to do so though and get into the league before he has a chance to kill his stock.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 If they draft a great prospect in the 1st and can afford to let him sit while developing, that would be perfect. The Bills and fans have never been patient enough to develop a QB the right way. They won't use a first round pick for a backup QB. Look around the NFL. No one has a good back up. That's just how it is. You draft a QB and give him a opportunity to learn at a slower pace. I love TT but he is not a franchise QB, good story and has played well but he is not a franchise QB Based on what exactly?
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