Dan Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Dareus was sick right before the game--he almost didn't play. Not that it's an excuse for other weeks but it might be why he was off today. Amazing that the defense is so many people's concern, isn't it? But we are all really starting to wonder about them. I can't say if it's the scheme but sure are a lot of people who think so. I don't know what more the fan base would want in a QB. Are you guys really now complaining that TT doesn't throw enough 10-20 yard passes? The guy was 11-12 passing today--nearly perfect with no turnovers. In a game where the running game is just rolling, what better performance could you ask for? One week he doesn't run enough. Next he had a bad half and people are pissed. Let's enjoy the guy! I'm not pissed or disappointed or demanding more of Taylor. He had a near flawless game. However, he has room to imporve. This isn't a bad thing, nor is it unexpected. I'm just stating what I think is the area of his game ..or perhaps the offensive philosophy.. that i think needs the most improvement.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Dareus was sick right before the game--he almost didn't play. Not that it's an excuse for other weeks but it might be why he was off today. Amazing that the defense is so many people's concern, isn't it? But we are all really starting to wonder about them. I can't say if it's the scheme but sure are a lot of people who think so. I don't know what more the fan base would want in a QB. Are you guys really now complaining that TT doesn't throw enough 10-20 yard passes? The guy was 11-12 passing today--nearly perfect with no turnovers. In a game where the running game is just rolling, what better performance could you ask for? One week he doesn't run enough. Next he had a bad half and people are pissed. Let's enjoy the guy! What kills me is he had 12 passing attempts. In an entire game. Like 3 passing attempts per quarter. And yet, he still managed 181 yards and a TD.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) This was the model of what Roman wanted to do on offense. Tyrod: 11-12 passing. TWELVE passing attempts the whole game. You know what that means? No mistakes. Plodding along on offense -- not really any 12 play sustained clock-eating drives -- but with nearly every play having the possibility of a playmaker breaking it open for a big one. Tyrod's first run. McCoy's first run. Karlos and Sammy on several occasions. Sure, I'd like to see the sustained drives come too, particularly when we have a lead, but ... I'm not complaining. Four big time playmakers were back today, and all made big time plays. Defense? First half and first drive of the second half, I wasn't that impressed. But after that, Hughes took over and again ... a big time playmaker made some big time plays. Overall, some work to do, but the Bills pretty much did what Whaley, Rex, and Roman built them to do. Let's see more of this Thursday night!] EDIT: they fooled me. The last drive was a 6+ minute, 10 play nail in the Dolphins' coffin. Edited November 8, 2015 by The Frankish Reich
boyst Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I actually think Tyrod has shown the ability to nail those throws. I think we'll see that side of his game emerge in short order. Hate that defense will be our downfall, whenever that is. I watched a lot of Carolina/Green Bay. That's what our D should look like this year. A balance of blitzing and conservatism. An aggressive set of backs left on their islands, and LB's cleaning all the mess up in between things. Any season in which the Bills sweep the Fish is inspiring to me. We have beat them all but 2 times in the last 7 matchups. What has beating the fish ever got us? Since 2012 we have lost only 2 games, in other words. Beating the Patriots are all that matter; we are 11-3 against the Jets since 2010. It is beating the teams like Cinci, Jax and the likes in our conference that are our downfall. Winning in our division has not mattered one bit for 10 years. I think your criticism of the defense is warranted. It just isn't playoff caliber at this point. No two ways about it. GO BILLS!!! I have a feeling that could be in December against Romo in Buffalo. Him coming back and throwing it up like a madman - silence critics, etc.
machine gun kelly Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Bill, it's nice to have you back and you must be getting healthy as you are again your game with this post tonight. I've been so impressed with Darby. As with many, i really questioned this pick which is why I'm a fan, not a scout. You don't have two 100+ rushers without excellent line play. They deserve a lot of credit for this success. I'm just so happy to see our stars out there. Now when we get Kyle Williams and Aaron Williams back, this defense will really improve.
GunnerBill Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 What kills me is he had 12 passing attempts. In an entire game. Like 3 passing attempts per quarter. And yet, he still managed 181 yards and a TD. Our QB throwing fewer than 20 times is part of the recipe as well. If our running game is as dominant as today then our offense is good.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I watched a lot of Carolina/Green Bay. That's what our D should look like this year. A balance of blitzing and conservatism. An aggressive set of backs left on their islands, and LB's cleaning all the mess up in between things. And both those teams gave up about 30 points and we gave up 17. We did not play well on defense at all and yet we gave up 17 points.
boyst Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 This was the model of what Roman wanted to do on offense. Tyrod: 11-12 passing. TWELVE passing attempts the whole game. You know what that means? No mistakes. Plodding along on offense -- not really any 12 play sustained clock-eating drives -- but with nearly every play having the possibility of a playmaker breaking it open for a big one. Tyrod's first run. McCoy's first run. Karlos and Sammy on several occasions. Sure, I'd like to see the sustained drives come too, particularly when we have a lead, but ... I'm not complaining. Four big time playmakers were back today, and all made big time plays. Defense? First half and first drive of the second half, I wasn't that impressed. But after that, Hughes took over and again ... a big time playmaker made some big time plays. Overall, some work to do, but the Bills pretty much did what Whaley, Rex, and Roman built them to do. Let's see more of this Thursday night!] EDIT: they fooled me. The last drive was a 6+ minute, 10 play nail in the Dolphins' coffin. this type of game plan is not built for long term success and success in the playoffs. I don't see it right now if we get there in a few years. Our offense tries to slow down the game and teams in the playoffs cannot be stopped of offense.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Our QB throwing fewer than 20 times is part of the recipe as well. If our running game is as dominant as today then our offense is good. Yep. The only reason he threw 12 passes is because he didn't have to throw. The running game broke the game open. Plus, there were about 7 other pass plays called where he scrambled or got sacked.
boyst Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 And both those teams gave up about 30 points and we gave up 17. We did not play well on defense at all and yet we gave up 17 points. both of those offenses are a hell of a lot more talented then Miami's. Green Bay has no OL and still managed to score. Carolina has turned in to possessing one of the best OL's right now.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) this type of game plan is not built for long term success and success in the playoffs. I don't see it right now if we get there in a few years. Our offense tries to slow down the game and teams in the playoffs cannot be stopped of offense. Well, after praising this offense today, you may be surprised to discover that I agree. But I'm a one step at a time guy after 15 years of not even sniffing the playoffs. And remember: the Broncos won a playoff game with Tebow and a great playmaker in D. Thomas on offense. Edited November 8, 2015 by The Frankish Reich
jumbalaya Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Bradham and Brown are very poor LBs. Neither can tackle. Robey and Darby are the eilite of this defense.
stevewin Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 And both those teams gave up about 30 points and we gave up 17. We did not play well on defense at all and yet we gave up 17 points. And yet the defense is still so frustrating to watch. Coming off the bye there was hope that something would be done on the coaching end to change/ simplify schemes and let players make plays, or on the players end to grasp the D and play with fire without hesitating or thinking or making mistakes. Neither seems to have happened
Kelly the Dog Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Well, after praising this offense today, you may be surprised to discover that I agree. But I'm a one step at a time guy after 15 years of not even sniffing the playoffs. And remember: the Broncos won a playoff game with Tebow and a great playmaker in D. Thomas on offense. The second series McCoy ripped off a 48 yard TD run. Karlos had two long runs. They were running well the entire game and then struck on deep balls when they had to. They didn't pass because they didn't have to, not because they couldn't. Do what is working is a very sustainable system. It's not at all that they are not capable of throwing the ball downfield. TT has proven that he can do that.
artmalibu Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) 16. The coaches need a beat down!! TT with 3 designed run late in the 4th quarter, this staff is not very good. Edited November 8, 2015 by artmalibu
Kelly the Dog Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 And yet the defense is still so frustrating to watch. Coming off the bye there was hope that something would be done on the coaching end to change/ simplify schemes and let players make plays, or on the players end to grasp the D and play with fire without hesitating or thinking or making mistakes. Neither seems to have happened No question. I was furious with the tackling and over pursuit and giving up first downs and penalties. But they also only gave up 17 points. They made a great play on fourth and goal to get away with zero points. They made a huge turnover that was one of the biggest plays of the game.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 The second series McCoy ripped off a 48 yard TD run. Karlos had two long runs. They were running well the entire game and then struck on deep balls when they had to. They didn't pass because they didn't have to, not because they couldn't. Do what is working is a very sustainable system. It's not at all that they are not capable of throwing the ball downfield. TT has proven that he can do that. And I agree with that too. Look, the best way for this team to win (and keep winning) is to do what Rex and Roman built them to do: run the ball, get the ball into the hands of some elite athletes (McCoy, Watkins, now Williams, sometimes Clay, and of course Tyrod) and let them get the points on the board through individual effort. I don't think it's necessarily a recipe for success in the playoffs, but ... then again, isn't this kind of close to what the Seahawks have done? I hope I'm wrong.
xsoldier54 Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I think your criticism of the defense is warranted. It just isn't playoff caliber at this point. No two ways about it. GO BILLS!!! This. I feel exactly the same way. Match this offensive production with last year's defense and then we have a winner.
CodeMonkey Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 And maybe, just maybe, this is the week we don't read anyone here complainig about bad calls all going against the Bills
The Frankish Reich Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 And maybe, just maybe, this is the week we don't read anyone here complainig about bad calls all going against the Bills I think this is the one! Not a single complaint so far.
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