John from Riverside Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 I think Glenn will over value himself. Those who call him better than average. Are close to being wrong. he is serviceable, and will want more than the Bills will pay. Another smart LT pick can cover his loss. IMO To me that is the million dollar question Other teams might view him as a better Right Tackle or LG
enlightener Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 why oh why d you all forget how hard it was for us to get an LT? we got very lucky w Peters, drafting him as a TE, then we had one good year with his fill (carl malones son) who left the next year...and sucked...We got Glenn in the Second, he plays as good as some first rounders taken. Now we are all OK with letting him go? We already have 2 starting quality CBs, and Gilmore isnt really all that. The guy doesnt turn his head around way more often than darby was accused of, and he gets more PI calls than Picks in a season. I say keep woods and glenn, Bradam and gilmore can be replaced.
White Linen Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Better hope we sign Glenn. For all that think he's just ok - wait until he's gone and you'll appreciate him then. He's one excellent tackle.
Bad Things Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Of course the Bills should resign Woods! Well, unless he's asking a fortune. For those calling him a "dime a dozen" player, and implying that he's easily expendable... you're either really young, or have a very poor short term memory. Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish, Donald Jones, David Nelson, TJ Graham, James Hardy, Brad Smith yada yada yada, the list goes on and on and on. THOSE guys were easily replaced and were a dime a dozen. Robert Woods is a baller and has a place on my team any day every day.
Mark Vader Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 We should definitely keep Robert Woods. Let him continue to grow in this offense. He's a good, not great, receiver. I'm not saying you break the bank for him, but he should remain with us. I would hate to just let him go then have to pin our hopes on another draft pick. I love Glenn, but if he wants elite money, forget it. His play has leveled out over the past couple of seasons. Bradham has been invisible for most of the season. This defense may not be the right fit for him. We should keep Gilmore. He has played very good this year.
DrDawkinstein Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Top priorities: Gilmore, Incognito, Woods Then Bradham, Glenn... if they work out. Out of all 5, I imagine Woods will be the easiest to get done. So, as they say, Git r dun.
Steve Billieve Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 When I imagine what this season would be like without Incognito and Glenn I tremble . . . Woods is definitely valuable . . . and then there's Gilmore . . . at least we don't have to worry about signing Harvin.
BarleyNY Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I think Glenn will over value himself. Those who call him better than average. Are close to being wrong. he is serviceable, and will want more than the Bills will pay. Another smart LT pick can cover his loss. IMO How he values himself matters little. How other teams value him matters a great deal. Let's face it, the reality of the situation is that a team without an average LT would be happy to have him and they'll pay him very well. The other part of that reality is finding a replacement LT should the Bills lose him. Capable or better LTs are usually first round or sometimes early/mid second round picks. Rarely are they found outside of that and even when they are those players don't generally start right away. If the Bills lose Glenn and can't replace him with another capable LT (and I don't see how they do that outside of early in the draft) we are going to see some real problems.
Storm Front Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I wish we had just kept Stevie Johnson and Kamar Aiken. Whaley must be an idiot when it comes to judging WR's.
Agent 91 Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 its a no brainer, most consistent productive wr since SJ. and we dont even have to argue for years on end on whether hes a #1 or #2. Hes a great #2 good attitude, and a better talent than SJ ever was, funny how many people anointed him our best WR ever since Reed. Name someone who was? Eric Moulds maybe but you cant name another WR we have had that can be mentioned with them why oh why d you all forget how hard it was for us to get an LT? we got very lucky w Peters, drafting him as a TE, then we had one good year with his fill (carl malones son) who left the next year...and sucked...We got Glenn in the Second, he plays as good as some first rounders taken. Now we are all OK with letting him go? We already have 2 starting quality CBs, and Gilmore isnt really all that. The guy doesnt turn his head around way more often than darby was accused of, and he gets more PI calls than Picks in a season. I say keep woods and glenn, Bradam and gilmore can be replaced. Damn dude.
John from Riverside Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 How he values himself matters little. How other teams value him matters a great deal. Let's face it, the reality of the situation is that a team without an average LT would be happy to have him and they'll pay him very well. The other part of that reality is finding a replacement LT should the Bills lose him. Capable or better LTs are usually first round or sometimes early/mid second round picks. Rarely are they found outside of that and even when they are those players don't generally start right away. If the Bills lose Glenn and can't replace him with another capable LT (and I don't see how they do that outside of early in the draft) we are going to see some real problems. I think the replacement LT is on the roster and its Seantrel Henderson.....there is a reason why the bills keep marching him out there He might actually be a better LT then he is a RT
jahnyc Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 He has not been very good at RT. I recognize that playing LT involves different/additional skills as compared to RT, but I also recall that Peters dominated at RT before being moved to LT.
John from Riverside Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 He has not been very good at RT. I recognize that playing LT involves different/additional skills as compared to RT, but I also recall that Peters dominated at RT before being moved to LT. I think we need to come to terms that Seantrel might not be the LT that Peters was
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 this. Glenn is gone no question, unless he is reasonable and Mario is released.. someone else will break the bank on him. the others we can work out better change your name back to forever
CSBill Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 FA in 2017. Type of player we may want to lock up early. He's been durable and productive as a #2 WR. 2nd round pick, Whaley seems to like him. Watkins is a superior talent but he's been in and out of the lineup this year. I would like to see Woods extended for some stability in the WR corp. Woods has that one irreplaceable quantity: Being available. He's shows up and does his thing every game. Yes!
BmarvB Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Definitely extend him. He's a solid #2 WR. I'd like to see him targeted more. He'll be more productive once we develop a franchise QB.
GunnerBill Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 How is an above average starting left tackle less of a priority for most of you than a middling #2/3 receiver? I happen to like Woods but there are a hell of a lot more Robert Woods on this planet than there are Cordy Glenns. Is Robert Woods decidedly better than Chris Hogan? I guess this speaks to the ongoing TBD narrative that the OL always sucks. It doesn't. It's average and Cordy Glenn is above average. Kind of with this. I am with you too. Gilmore is priority #1. Then it HAS to be Glenn. If we are keeping Rex I'd have Woods over Bradham because I am not sure Bradham is a great fit for this scheme based on what I see. However, I think Glenn is the one we most likely lose. The offensive line standard across the league at the moment is putrid (the Bills line is average as against the rest of the league I agree but the standard is woeful) which means that above average players like Glenn get deals way beyond their true value if they hit FA. I fear we won't be able to match. Even if I can match Glenn and keep him, I am looking for a top tier LT prospect in the draft in either the 1st or 2nd round.... then I either switch Glenn out to RT as a bookend or I slide him inside to guard if we haven't managed to keep Richie.
Bill from NYC Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 How is an above average starting left tackle less of a priority for most of you than a middling #2/3 receiver? I happen to like Woods but there are a hell of a lot more Robert Woods on this planet than there are Cordy Glenns. Is Robert Woods decidedly better than Chris Hogan? I guess this speaks to the ongoing TBD narrative that the OL always sucks. It doesn't. It's average and Cordy Glenn is above average. Kind of with this. The problem I see with Glenn is that even in a contract year, he isn't improving. I am not saying that he isn't a good player, but I don't know if he's worth 12 million or so per season. Do you think he is worth that kind of money? He has not been very good at RT. I recognize that playing LT involves different/additional skills as compared to RT, but I also recall that Peters dominated at RT before being moved to LT.Yes and so btw did Jonas Jennings.
Nanker Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I think Glenn will over value himself. Those who call him better than average. Are close to being wrong. he is serviceable, and will want more than the Bills will pay. Another smart LT pick can cover his loss. IMO And you know this how? Of course, OLinemen are a dime a dozen. You can easily pick up two or three and plug them right in and bingo! Success. It's simple. The history of The Bills and for that matter, much of the rest of The League shows this... not. The problem I see with Glenn is that even in a contract year, he isn't improving. I am not saying that he isn't a good player, but I don't know if he's worth 12 million or so per season. Do you think he is worth that kind of money? You really think he'll command that kind of $? I think we need to come to terms that Seantrel might not be the LT that Peters was By something like an order of magnitude.
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