IDBillzFan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Every bomb we drop, every refugee who drowns in the Mediterranean, every cowardly politician who refuses to show a little compassion, plays RIGHT into the hands of Daesh. What better way to make them hate us? We've spent the last seven years being led by a man who has done everything but send an Edible Arrangement and singing telegram to the people who hate us. In spite of the ever-predictable SoProg chorus of "we deserve what we're getting," the fact remains that there will ALWAYS be people who just hate us and want us dead no matter what we do. Seven years of Sally Fields knob-gobbling is on the books, and yet innocent people are still being killed all over the world. Even a nutsucker like gatorman can understand that math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 We've spent the last seven years being led by a man who has done everything but send an Edible Arrangement and singing telegram to the people who hate us. In spite of the ever-predictable SoProg chorus of "we deserve what we're getting," the fact remains that there will ALWAYS be people who just hate us and want us dead no matter what we do. Seven years of Sally Fields knob-gobbling is on the books, and yet innocent people are still being killed all over the world. Even a nutsucker like gatorman can understand that math. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/ At least 2,464 people have now been killed by US drone strikes outside the country’s declared war zones since President Barack Obama’s inauguration six years ago, the Bureau’s latest monthly report reveals. Of the total killed since Obama took his oath of office on January 20 2009, at least 314 have been civilians, while the number of confirmed strikes under his administration now stands at 456. Research by the Bureau also shows there have now been nearly nine times more strikes under Obama in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia than there were under his predecessor, George W Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/ So you think if Obama did absolutely nothing...no drone strikes against enemies...absolutely nothing...that the world would stop hating us and all would be well? Would you say that Obama's drone strikes caused the attack on Paris? If he didn't send out drone strikes, would Paris have been averted? Because essentially, that's what you're impying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/02/02/almost-2500-killed-covert-us-drone-strikes-obama-inauguration/ Yeah. And that's because his policy is to avoid fighting at all costs. It's the standard "don't get your hands dirty and prosecute a war in the most sanitized fashion possible" doctrine that's such a part of the American psyche, and so fundamentally flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 So you think if Obama did absolutely nothing...no drone strikes against enemies...absolutely nothing...that the world would stop hating us and all would be well? Would you say that Obama's drone strikes caused the attack on Paris? If he didn't send out drone strikes, would Paris have been averted? Because essentially, that's what you're impying. No you !@#$ing ignoramus you said Obama "We've spent the last seven years being led by a man who has done everything but send an Edible Arrangement and singing telegram to the people who hate us" I'm implying that's not the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Yeah. And that's because his policy is to avoid fighting at all costs. It's the standard "don't get your hands dirty and prosecute a war in the most sanitized fashion possible" doctrine that's such a part of the American psyche, and so fundamentally flawed. By get your hands dirty you mean what ? maybe 40-60 soldiers a month coming home in boxes and triple that number wounded- you got a costs vs benefits analysis lined up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 No you !@#$ing ignoramus you said Obama "We've spent the last seven years being led by a man who has done everything but send an Edible Arrangement and singing telegram to the people who hate us" I'm implying that's not the truth. I actually was so busy trying to mock you that I completely missed the part in the report that stated Obama has killed twice as many civilians as Bush ever did. I guess you're right. You SoProgs are pretty hawkish. It's something to remember the next time one of you nutbags start yelling about Bush at war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It's something to remember the next time one of you nutbags start yelling about Bush at war. No, it's not. War is not a game, and body counts are not how you keep score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 No, it's not. War is not a game, and body counts are not how you keep score. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.How about a nice game of chess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? The other guys on the high school chess team used to get pissed when I explained how chess was the first wargame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 The other guys on the high school chess team used to get pissed when I explained how chess was the first wargame... I thought go was the first wargame maybe the first strategy game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 I thought go was the first wargame maybe the first strategy game? Go only gets violent when you're not allowed to collect $200 for passing it along the way to jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I thought go was the first wargame maybe the first strategy game? Calling it a "wargame" might be a stretch...but not to great a stretch. It's certainly a strategy game, and certainly older than chess. And not particularly relevant to my post, as I'd never even heard of go in high school, nor would it have pissed off a bunch of pacifist chess nerds to say "Go is the first wargame, you know..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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