TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) That's laughable. The Darby thing could have been a lucky guess. He came on here a week before the second interview and said Rex is coming in for a second interview and his OC choice is Roman. No one had that info here at the time. It was his 14th total post. It's not like he had a history of wild guesses. He has info. He also makes wild statements. Those two things are not mutually exclusive nor do they negate each other. They are both simultaneously true. New England talk radio did. I can't imagine they were the only ones either. And yes, they do negate each other, because when you make a definitive statement, like he did about EJ Manuel, and then prove to be so incredibly and laughably wrong, it discredits you as a source, and the quality of your information. How could someone with legitimate information be so wrong about the quarterback position of all things? Edited October 28, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Did you come out and say Roman was going to be the OC a week before it happened? All the chatter here and on the media sites was Marc Trestman. Doubtful. I may have mentioned a connection between the two from something I read on the web, but I am pretty sure I didn't make any predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 New England talk radio did. I can't imagine they were the only ones either. And yes, they do negate each other, because when you make a definitive statement, like he did about EJ Manuel, and then prove to be so incredibly and laughably wrong, it discredits you as a source, and the quality of your information. How could someone with legitimate information be so wrong about the quarterback position of all things? Because he hears things at OBD. Some of the things are going to be true. When you hear "Rex is coming in for his second interview" it is a fact and when you retell that fact on the message board it is still a fact. Maybe he heard one coach discussing Jake Locker and the fact the Bills think he could be had and that he is better than EJ as a prospect. And that if they were to procure him and drafted a r signed another player they would or they may release EJ. When he heard that bandied about he mistook it for their plan or he misheard or he just made a wild prediction. We have seen him do it before. But we remember, he was talking about the Bills signing Jake Locker, who then abruptly retired. It's possible they really were thinking about that (I don't really believe it myself, I think Leroi exaggerated what he may have heard) but it's still possible. When Locker retired that was no longer the case. Who knows. The point is the Darby one was spot on and a huge surprise. The second Rex interview was days before it was announced. Trestman was the consensus OC candidate Rex was linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Because he hears things at OBD. Some of the things are going to be true. When you hear "Rex is coming in for his second interview" it is a fact and when you retell that fact on the message board it is still a fact. Maybe he heard one coach discussing Jake Locker and the fact the Bills think he could be had and that he is better than EJ as a prospect. And that if they were to procure him and drafted a r signed another player they would or they may release EJ. When he heard that bandied about he mistook it for their plan or he misheard or he just made a wild prediction. We have seen him do it before. But we remember, he was talking about the Bills signing Jake Locker, who then abruptly retired. It's possible they really were thinking about that (I don't really believe it myself, I think Leroi exaggerated what he may have heard) but it's still possible. When Locker retired that was no longer the case. Who knows. The point is the Darby one was spot on and a huge surprise. The second Rex interview was days before it was announced. Trestman was the consensus OC candidate Rex was linked to. That's an awful lot to be asked to believe. The simpler answer is that he pulls stuff out of his ass, and claims to know things that he doesn't; because he's not associated with the Bills organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 That's an awful lot to be asked to believe. The simpler answer is that he pulls stuff out of his ass, and claims to know things that he doesn't; because he's not associated with the Bills organization. If he had a history of wild guesses I would agree with that. But the fact is his first "guess" as you call it was a major scoop. And two of his first three I think were a major scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 As long as it wasn't the source who said EJ was going to be waived because he found some papers in a trash can he was emptying. Cold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he had a history of wild guesses I would agree with that. But the fact is his first "guess" as you call it was a major scoop. And two of his first three I think were a major scoop. Like in everything else, the critical evaluation is not in the plays that you do make, but rather in the ones that you miss. When you're so grossly wrong about such important things, you undermine yourself. It's just like EJ Manuel, in fact. Two beautiful TD passes negated by two awful interceptions and a strip sack fumble cause by a general lack of awareness and lack of ability. EJ, rightfully so, is being correctly critically evaluated to be a poor quarterback because of the things he can't or doesn't do. Leroi is the EJ Manuel of Two Bills Drive posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) There are a lot of QBs in the NFL better than EJ. But is there someone not in the NFL better than EJ? In other words, could we sign someone not currently on a roster who would perform better than EJ against the Fins on November 8th? Doubtful. Like in everything else, the critical evaluation is not in the plays that you do make, but rather in the ones that you miss. When you're so grossly wrong about such important things, you undermine yourself. It's just like EJ Manuel, in fact. Two beautiful TD passes negated by two awful interceptions and a strip sack fumble cause by a general lack of awareness and lack of ability. EJ, rightfully so, is being correctly critically evaluated to be a poor quarterback because of the things he can't or doesn't do. Leroi is the EJ Manuel of Two Bills Drive posters. Interesting analogy. Edited October 28, 2015 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Like in everything else, the critical evaluation is not in the plays that you do make, but rather in the ones that you miss. When you're so grossly wrong about such important things, you undermine yourself. It's just like EJ Manuel, in fact. Two beautiful TD passes negated by two awful interceptions and a strip sack fumble cause by a general lack of awareness and lack of ability. EJ, rightfully so, is being correctly critically evaluated to be a poor quarterback because of the things he can't or doesn't do. Leroi is the EJ Manuel of Two Bills Drive posters. Where are all these other statements of fact he posted that didn't turn out to be true. Even in the Manuel cut thing he said "look for" IIRC or something to that affect. That isn't even a statement of fact, although it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 He made a wild guess when no one knew about Rex Ryan's second interview that Ryan would be coming There are those who would tell you that he "stole" that factoid from the shout box and made it his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It will be a month off. He'll play. So will most of the other guys. This is a bunch of over speculation. agreed. Miami game begins Season 2 with the majority of the guys we thought were the starters. McCoy 100%, Watkins 100%, Karlos 100%, Miller 100%, TT 100%. That's 5 key guys you lose you lose most of the time, you have you win most of the time. In the NFL the dropoff from starters to backups is generally pretty dramatic: see Pittsburgh, Dallas, Ariz. last year. You don't win much with backups in the NFL. Cinci is dominant bc they were at 100% healthy until just recently. Makes a big difference in today's NFL. "next man up" is a bunch of crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Where are all these other statements of fact he posted that didn't turn out to be true. Even in the Manuel cut thing he said "look for" IIRC or something to that affect. That isn't even a statement of fact, although it's close. A small sampling: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181912-source-ej-manuel-to-start-sunday-for-tyrod-taylor/page-6?do=findComment&comment=3723656 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181737-bills-sign-k-billy-cundiff-wr-denarius-moore;-cundiff-cut/page-6?do=findComment&comment=3715064 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181598-coughlin-told-giants-that-bills-would-beat-themselves/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3710836 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181388-watkins-injury-update-post-em-here/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3703048 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181185-brees-torn-rotator-cuff/?do=findComment&comment=3693014 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/180832-so-that-first-play-of-the-game/?do=findComment&comment=3680035 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/179969-wawrow-article-indicates-ej-sees-walls-writing/?do=findComment&comment=3633791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 A small sampling: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181912-source-ej-manuel-to-start-sunday-for-tyrod-taylor/page-6?do=findComment&comment=3723656 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181737-bills-sign-k-billy-cundiff-wr-denarius-moore;-cundiff-cut/page-6?do=findComment&comment=3715064 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181598-coughlin-told-giants-that-bills-would-beat-themselves/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3710836 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181388-watkins-injury-update-post-em-here/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3703048 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181185-brees-torn-rotator-cuff/?do=findComment&comment=3693014 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/180832-so-that-first-play-of-the-game/?do=findComment&comment=3680035 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/179969-wawrow-article-indicates-ej-sees-walls-writing/?do=findComment&comment=3633791 I looked through the first five. Maybe one of those is what I would consider a fact if that. "Look for" is a prediction. The one about Sammy, while it didn't happen, is pretty much as it happened. Sammy was ready to go for the Giants game. They did wait til Sunday and he thought he could play and wanted to. The guys reporting on the sidelines like Sal reported he was running full speed with no limp and looked ready to go. At the last minute they decided to keep him out one more week as a precaution but he was ready to play and wanted to play. The Brees thing seemed like a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I looked through the first five. Maybe one of those is what I would consider a fact if that. "Look for" is a prediction. The one about Sammy, while it didn't happen, is pretty much as it happened. Sammy was ready to go for the Giants game. They did wait til Sunday and he thought he could play and wanted to. The guys reporting on the sidelines like Sal reported he was running full speed with no limp and looked ready to go. At the last minute they decided to keep him out one more week as a precaution but he was ready to play and wanted to play. The Brees thing seemed like a joke. You're making excuses to prop him up. And that was just a small sampling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 You're making excuses to prop him up. And that was just a small sampling. I could have missed some for sure. I don't read all his posts. I think he says crazy **** and have said so numerous times here. I also think that he does or did have an internship or some type of menial job that Sammy Watkins disparaged today and hears things at OBD that are sometimes scoops or new information for us. I don't think he just "always" throws crap at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I could have missed some for sure. I don't read all his posts. I think he says crazy **** and have said so numerous times here. I also think that he does or did have an internship or some type of menial job that Sammy Watkins disparaged today and hears things at OBD that are sometimes scoops or new information for us. I don't think he just "always" throws crap at the wall. I don't think either of us will convince the other here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) That's an awful lot to be asked to believe. The simpler answer is that he pulls stuff out of his ass, and claims to know things that he doesn't; because he's not associated with the Bills organization.How do we explain Leroi in the war room? I know for a fact Bills employees are allowed in there. Whether you agree with his opinions or not is up to you but not agreeing that he had info is just flat wrong. Edited October 29, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 How do we explain Leroi in the war room? I know for a fact Bills employees are allowed in there. Whether you agree with his opinions or not are up to you but not agreeing that he had info is just flat wrong. Weeks before the London game he invited TBD people to a Saturday nite hotel party in London. Forget the thread. Anyone go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 You're making excuses to prop him up. And that was just a small sampling. TTT He called our first pick in the draft Darby....I dont care how much EJ nonsense he puts on the boad....that was TOTALLY out in left field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thad Lewis owns the Phins! I may be wrong, but I don't think EJ has ever lost to Fish either. Sqwished them soundly in September 2014. His rookie year I don't think EJ payed them at all. Thaddeus took care of the honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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