Fixxxer Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Poor teams never get the benefit of the doubt from the Refs. The Bills were far more often than not, poor teams in the last 15 years. I agree, but look at the Ravens this year, they are a poor team this yar. John Harbaugh, who I think is a fine coach, is having a bad year and bad officiating is not helping his cause, is he a whiner when he openly critizes the refs for a couple of really bad decisions? More coaches should be more critical of the quality of reffing, regardless of fines or warnings from the NFL. I think they need to cross that threshold that is being critical of ref performance. Do you think players like to bust their asses all year long being in top shape to play a violent sport and then on any given Sunday, go home a loser because a ref mistakenly threw a flag? Look at Robey, the guy for the most part had a great day, he isn't a starter and his chances of making plays are not high, but the game is close and it's time to step up he reads the situation, his film study tells him the ball is going to a point/player, he plays it perfectly and is penalized by a ref? It's in his right to feel robbed and I can't really blame him when unprepared, unconsistent refs ruin the joy of his livelihood.
KDS73 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Yup, yup and they just signed a 5 yr extention the week of the game. Still waiting for someone to explain how the refs convinced our boys to turn the ball over 4 times. Pretty sure they couldn't give two ***** about what happens in London.
dave mcbride Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I don't think there are meetings to decide who should get the calls or who gets the win. I was kidding ...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 The problem i mostly have is the officials at the most critical time didn't get together and discuss what each other seen. To try and get the call right I mean really u can take a minute to figure this out.
dave mcbride Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Hughes was already halfway past him. Then he gets the left arm in up to his chin and prevents him from passing because of the hold. I don't know the rule exactly but that doesn't at all seem to fit into the inside is okay explanation you gave. I understand what you are saying and you may be right. To me. He didn't get inside, you have to be almost straight up against the opponent to get inside. Hughes was already on his way past Joekel when he reached in and grabbed him. To me that is a blatant hold called almost every time. Focus on the Bills o-line the next couple of games during passing plays. They'll do it too, and they won't get called.
OhDozeBills Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Eh, I've seen much worse not get called so this isn't a huge deal to me. There was a hold on Dareus that was MUCH worse than this on another play and didn't get called. Dareus was running toward the play and the Jags O-lineman literally grabbed a fist full of the back of his jersey and held onto it. It was the most obvious hold you'll ever see and didn't get called.
The Big Cat Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) There's the way the world should be, and the way it is. No ref is trying to help Hughes out. Not one. But that's not the way the world is. I'm sorry. Forget the refs, who was covering the receiver on that play? Awful coverage. https://vine.co/v/eYvMF3Kalri Graham apparently pulled his hammy. But, as I've been screaming to anyone who will listen: our safeties have been AWFUL. Just awful. Focus on the Bills o-line the next couple of games during passing plays. They'll do it too, and they won't get called. The moment Hughes has his back to the guy but somehow has his momentum halted...what could the O-lineman POSSIBLY be doing to him that's even remotely legal? Edited October 27, 2015 by The Big Cat
FireChan Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 But that's not the way the world is. I'm sorry. https://vine.co/v/eYvMF3Kalri Graham apparently pulled his hammy. The moment Hughes has his back to the guy but somehow has his momentum halted...what could the O-lineman POSSIBLY be doing to him that's even remotely legal? I don't know what to tell you if you don't think there's an actual reason to PF flags being thrown on Hughes for nothing.
The Big Cat Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 I don't know what to tell you if you don't think there's an actual reason to PF flags being thrown on Hughes for nothing. Then the Bills should file a grievance against the league and appeal to every high court in the land until every last NFL game in 2015, Bills or otherwise is vacated. You can't just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well, refs hate Hughes." If that's the case, then the Bills have been systematically put at a competitive advantage by conspiring league officials. I happen to NOT think that's the case. I just think they're !@#$ing lousy at their jobs.
Captain_Quint Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Then the Bills should file a grievance against the league and appeal to every high court in the land until every last NFL game in 2015, Bills or otherwise is vacated. You can't just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well, refs hate Hughes." If that's the case, then the Bills have been systematically put at a competitive advantage by conspiring league officials. I happen to NOT think that's the case. I just think they're !@#$ing lousy at their jobs. Everyone is lousy at their jobs!! Youre a ***tty lion and Im a poor excuse for a fisherman. Edited October 27, 2015 by Captain_Quint
peterpan Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 now that almost everyone agrees that EJ will NEVER be a franchise qb.......I can start turning folks attention to hughes not being worth big money. his once a year highlight tomahawk chop strip sack fumble return for a TD does not make a complete player like kyle, Mario and dareus. He was a stud for two seasons and just like every other player on D, has regressed under Rexy.
GG Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Focus on the Bills o-line the next couple of games during passing plays. They'll do it too, and they won't get called.To me this was a worse infraction than what Urbik got flagged for vs Giants. Seems refs make these calls on big plays. My only guess is that the refs huddled and decided that they missed the pi on Graham's and just gave it to them. Edited October 27, 2015 by GG
K-9 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Be nice if Jerry and the rest of the fellas could have earned some benefit of the doubt with officials around the league. GO BILLS!!!
FireChan Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Then the Bills should file a grievance against the league and appeal to every high court in the land until every last NFL game in 2015, Bills or otherwise is vacated. You can't just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well, refs hate Hughes." If that's the case, then the Bills have been systematically put at a competitive advantage by conspiring league officials. I happen to NOT think that's the case. I just think they're !@#$ing lousy at their jobs. I don't think it's systematic. I think it's, at most, subconscious. Be nice if Jerry and the rest of the fellas could have earned some benefit of the doubt with officials around the league. GO BILLS!!! Bingo.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Anyone who thinks the Bills don't deserve the good calls because they have been undisciplined and arrogant and jerks... Which is what I believe... That's a conspiracy against them by definition.
DrDawkinstein Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 They held Dareus all day without getting flagged too. Look, for the Bills it's 11 on 18, it's just the way it's going to be. They even got bad calls in the Colts and Dolphins game. They're going to have to play well enough that the bad calls don't hurt them.
LIBILLS25 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 that is vintage hughes... single blocked, turns his back, doesn't set the edge. another one solo tackle, zero sack, zero qb hit, zero TFL performance. Cool story bro
FireChan Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Anyone who thinks the Bills don't deserve the good calls because they have been undisciplined and arrogant and jerks... Which is what I believe... That's a conspiracy against them by definition. Confirmation bias isn't a conspiracy.
Nuncha Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 They have a question mark on the video title as if there is doubt? Total BS no call.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Confirmation bias isn't a conspiracy. Whether or not it's warranted, or the way the league works is immaterial. It's the very definition of conspiracy. A group of people banding together to not call the game fairly but to exact retribution for previous affronts to the rules. It's inarguable. Again, I think the Bills brought it on themselves but surely it is a conspiracy. They, as a group, don't make all calls equal as they happen in front of them, on purpose, for a desired outcome (not the score of the game but the punishment for being jerks before). That's a conspiracy.
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