BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 First things first: I'm not comparing the players now, and I'm not saying that Tyrod will definitely develop into a franchise QB, let alone a top 5 QB. However, there are people who think Tyrod has had maybe 2 good games and that have complained about his performance thus far. I have compiled the stats from the first 5 games of another QB who had time to sit before starting. Let's let the season play out and see what we have. QB = Aaron Rodgers CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT RSH YDS YPC TD W/L 18 26 201 7.73 1 0 5 30 6.0 0 L 18 22 178 8.09 1 0 8 35 4.4 1 W 24 38 328 8.63 3 0 4 25 6.25 0 W 22 39 290 7.44 0 0 5 10 2.0 1 L 14 27 165 6.11 2 3 2 8 4.0 0 L----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 96 152 1162 7.64 7 3 24 108 4.5 2 2-3 QB = Tyrod Taylor CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT RSH YDS YPC TD W/L 14 19 195 10.26 1 0 9 41 4.6 0 W 23 30 242 8.07 3 3 5 43 8.6 1 L 21 29 277 9.55 3 0 3 12 4.0 0 W 28 42 274 6.52 1 1 6 15 2.5 0 L 10 17 109 6.41 1 0 8 76 9.5 1 W----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 96 137 1097 8.01 9 4 31 187 6.0 2 3-2
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) 5 games in and that is proof? I support TT fully, but 5 games in by no means any proof. Look at RGIII for example. Light out his rookie season. Then what happened example # 2 Kapernick example #3 Sanchez -- 2 CCG's you can't argue that much. Edited October 27, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
YoloinOhio Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I miss you TT. Please come back soon. Edited October 27, 2015 by YoloinOhio
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 5 games in and that is proof? I support TT fully, but 5 games in by no means any proof. Look at RGIII for example. Light out his rookie season. Then what happened example # 2 Kapernick example #3 Sanchez -- 2 CCG's you can't argue that much. Proof of what? All I said is that his stats warrant more opportunities. First things first: I'm not comparing the players now, and I'm not saying that Tyrod will definitely develop into a franchise QB, let alone a top 5 QB. However, there are people who think Tyrod has had maybe 2 good games and that have complained about his performance thus far. I have compiled the stats from the first 5 games of another QB who had time to sit before starting. Let's let the season play out and see what we have.
Nanker Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 BuffaloHokie13, I admire your optimism. I try to have that too. I'm behind TT and hope his career does take off here. It better soon because there is no shortage of "fans" who will savage him and his reputation if it doesn't. Go Bills!
Boatdrinks Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Proof of what? All I said is that his stats warrant more opportunities. OK, but is there some outcry that TT hasn't warranted more opportunities? I think most fans can't wait for TT to return so they don't have to watch EJM anymore.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 BuffaloHokie13, I admire your optimism. I try to have that too. I'm behind TT and hope his career does take off here. It better soon because there is no shortage of "fans" who will savage him and his reputation if it doesn't. Go Bills! I really don't think he'll ever be Aaron Rodgers, but I'd like to find out what he is
Dorkington Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 We went through this with EJ (and still do to an extent) It's much too early to get into comparisons... he's 3-2, has had a couple good games, a couple games where he struggled, it'll take a long time to truly figure out if we have something, imo.
Nanker Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Me too and I hope it's good... real good. I really don't think he'll ever be Aaron Rodgers, but I'd like to find out what he is
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 OK, but is there some outcry that TT hasn't warranted more opportunities? I think most fans can't wait for TT to return so they don't have to watch EJM anymore. IDK why, but there are folks who think EJ should finish out the year. There are folks who think we need to bring in Ryan Mallett. There are folks who think that Tyrod has reached his 'ceiling'. There are folks to who think the NFL figured him out after 2 games. And there are folks who think that Tyrod should be some perfectly polished product because he held a clipboard for Flacco for 4 years. In the end, he hasn't been nearly as bad as some seem to think, and he needs to play out the season. We went through this with EJ (and still do to an extent) It's much too early to get into comparisons... he's 3-2, has had a couple good games, a couple games where he struggled, it'll take a long time to truly figure out if we have something, imo. I'm with you. This was more a response to people saying his time holding a clipboard should have slowed down the game for him and made him a polished product like the comparison was when he finally started. Here's hoping we give it some time and make a proper assessment.
TallskiWallski83 Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Tyrod Taylor is the only reason why I still have hope for this season. Somehow, someway, he's going to find a way to get this team into the playoffs
NoSaint Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I really don't think he'll ever be Aaron Rodgers, but I'd like to find out what he is he could end up great, or you could find a dumpster fire that started his first 5 games well.... all this really says is you like him a lot, and who knows what his future is. we all kind of knew both those things already.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 5 games in and that is proof? I support TT fully, but 5 games in by no means any proof. Look at RGIII for example. Light out his rookie season. Then what happened example # 2 Kapernick example #3 Sanchez -- 2 CCG's you can't argue that much. The analogy to RGIII is nonsensical. Mike Shanahan got Griffin "killed" and the following season started him without his participating fully in training camp and not playing in any exhibitions, which led to him getting injured again early on. Griffin has never been the same since Shanahan ruined him. That's a big difference between a healthy, young player and a significantly limited player following serious injuries. Also, when Griffin returned, they attempted to totally change his game, which he had difficulty adapting to. So it's apples and oranges. Why are so many now dumping on Taylor? We wouldn't have three wins if it wasn't for him. He's played exceptionally well for someone who never started previously. It therefore must be the ecstasy with EJ. Good luck with that.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Posted October 27, 2015 he could end up great, or you could find a dumpster fire that started his first 5 games well.... all this really says is you like him a lot, and who knows what his future is. we all kind of knew both those things already. I accept and endorse this assessment
John from Riverside Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 OK, but is there some outcry that TT hasn't warranted more opportunities? I think most fans can't wait for TT to return so they don't have to watch EJM anymore. Search Gug or TakeittoTasker's posts and you will understand why this is being posted I personally dont like post Tyrod's numbers to a future hall of famer - His work to date does not warrant that and - it is not fair to compare the two players....at this point in their careers Aaron Rogers is clearly the better player
NOVABillsFan Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) The analogy to RGIII is nonsensical. Mike Shanahan got Griffin "killed" and the following season started him without his participating fully in training camp and not playing in any exhibitions, which led to him getting injured again early on. Griffin has never been the same since Shanahan ruined him. That's a big difference between a healthy, young player and a significantly limited player following serious injuries. Also, when Griffin returned, they attempted to totally change his game, which he had difficulty adapting to. So it's apples and oranges. Why are so many now dumping on Taylor? We wouldn't have three wins if it wasn't for him. He's played exceptionally well for someone who never started previously. It therefore must be the ecstasy with EJ. Good luck with that. If I might chime in Was Shanahan a QB killer or RG a coach killer? A couple of items to ponder - Where is Shanahan this season and why is RGIII 3rd string? Who tried to make RGIII a pocket passer when he is a running QB? IIRC (and I may be wrong here) that is what RGIII and his dad wanted for him. To not run so much and pass from the pocket. Edited October 27, 2015 by NOVABillsFan
dave mcbride Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 First things first: I'm not comparing the players now, and I'm not saying that Tyrod will definitely develop into a franchise QB, let alone a top 5 QB. However, there are people who think Tyrod has had maybe 2 good games and that have complained about his performance thus far. I have compiled the stats from the first 5 games of another QB who had time to sit before starting. Let's let the season play out and see what we have. QB = Aaron Rodgers CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT RSH YDS YPC TD W/L 18 26 201 7.73 1 0 5 30 6.0 0 L 18 22 178 8.09 1 0 8 35 4.4 1 W 24 38 328 8.63 3 0 4 25 6.25 0 W 22 39 290 7.44 0 0 5 10 2.0 1 L 14 27 165 6.11 2 3 2 8 4.0 0 L ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 96 152 1162 7.64 7 3 24 108 4.5 2 2-3 QB = Tyrod Taylor CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT RSH YDS YPC TD W/L 14 19 195 10.26 1 0 9 41 4.6 0 W 23 30 242 8.07 3 3 5 43 8.6 1 L 21 29 277 9.55 3 0 3 12 4.0 0 W 28 42 274 6.52 1 1 6 15 2.5 0 L 10 17 109 6.41 1 0 8 76 9.5 1 W ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 96 137 1097 8.01 9 4 31 187 6.0 2 3-2 One thing I like about TT is that none of his INTs have been on bad reads or instances in which he stared down a receiver. Two were high (NE), one was an inaccurate desperation heave before the half (NE), and one was a good throw in which the DB made a great, great play (NYG; Clay could have come down with it himself, actually). He's a much different player than Manuel in that respect.
YoloinOhio Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Rex is holding midnight vigils for TT's knee per #sources Edited October 27, 2015 by YoloinOhio
LeGOATski Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 He needs to get back on the field. I was afraid we'd lose to Jax, but didn't actually think we would. Holy crap. Tyrod, please come back.
dave mcbride Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Rex is holding midnight vigils for TT's knee per #sources Ha. If he's a religious man, he probably is.
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