BillsVet Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I really don't care what the predictable homers have to say in this thread. No one invests 1.4B into a NFL franchise and watches what happened today without thinking there'll be changes. The owner isn't an unbridled homer who merely can't criticize his team. Matt Cassel does not gift-wrap 21 points to possibly the worst defense in the NFL. Matt Cassel does not throw balls in the dirt to Robert Woods 7 yards downfield. Matt Cassel is not the guy a Jags defense knows and tells announcers cannot go through progressions. But Matt Cassel is not Doug Whaley's pick and therefore is expendable. This entire season was about winning now. All the spending, the Rex hire, everything. But then Doug Whaley traded someone for a future draft pick and it was about EJ's ceiling? No, this was about Doug Whaley trying to survive. If there's one positive coming out of this game, it'll be that Doug Whaley's handling of the QB position and subsequent doubling down on Manuel will indeed get him fired. Pegula hasn't hired nor extended him. We're going to look back on 2010-15 (the current rebuild) years and realize how utterly horrible Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley were.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) We're going to look back on 2010-15 (the current rebuild) years and realize how utterly horrible Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley were. You shouldn't have to look back. It's looking at you in the face already. But I get your point and I certainly agree that the casual fans will spin this narrative once this season goes down the crapper. Edited October 25, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever
Best Player Available Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I really don't care what the predictable homers have to say in this thread. No one invests 1.4B into a NFL franchise and watches what happened today without thinking there'll be changes. The owner isn't an unbridled homer who merely can't criticize his team. Matt Cassel does not gift-wrap 21 points to possibly the worst defense in the NFL. Matt Cassel does not throw balls in the dirt to Robert Woods 7 yards downfield. Matt Cassel is not the guy a Jags defense knows and tells announcers cannot go through progressions. But Matt Cassel is not Doug Whaley's pick and therefore is expendable. This entire season was about winning now. All the spending, the Rex hire, everything. But then Doug Whaley traded someone for a future draft pick and it was about EJ's ceiling? No, this was about Doug Whaley trying to survive. If there's one positive coming out of this game, it'll be that Doug Whaley's handling of the QB position and subsequent doubling down on Manuel will indeed get him fired. Pegula hasn't hired nor extended him. We're going to look back on 2010-15 (the current rebuild) years and realize how utterly horrible Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley were. Don't disagree with anything. With the exception of EJ was a Nix pick his last year as GM. " I am not leaving until I have a franchise QB in place".
Chandler#81 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Worst. Thread. Ever. Agreed. Dumping off a QB who is undeniably worse than Manuel is what GMs are paid to do. Yeeeeesh.
jeffismagic Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Cassel had a meltdown game last year against the Pats. EJ was terrible today. That doesn't make Cassel good. Cassel has been awful last few years.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Don't disagree with anything. With the exception of EJ was a Nix pick his last year as GM. " I am not leaving until I have a franchise QB in place". Not so easy. Whaley came up with the draft board that had EJ Manuel as a 1st round QB...lol Whaley is to blame for that pick as much as Buddy Nix. Edited October 25, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever
birdog1960 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I really don't care what the predictable homers have to say in this thread. No one invests 1.4B into a NFL franchise and watches what happened today without thinking there'll be changes. The owner isn't an unbridled homer who merely can't criticize his team. Matt Cassel does not gift-wrap 21 points to possibly the worst defense in the NFL. Matt Cassel does not throw balls in the dirt to Robert Woods 7 yards downfield. Matt Cassel is not the guy a Jags defense knows and tells announcers cannot go through progressions. But Matt Cassel is not Doug Whaley's pick and therefore is expendable. This entire season was about winning now. All the spending, the Rex hire, everything. But then Doug Whaley traded someone for a future draft pick and it was about EJ's ceiling? No, this was about Doug Whaley trying to survive. If there's one positive coming out of this game, it'll be that Doug Whaley's handling of the QB position and subsequent doubling down on Manuel will indeed get him fired. Pegula hasn't hired nor extended him. We're going to look back on 2010-15 (the current rebuild) years and realize how utterly horrible Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley were. absolutely correct.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 I would think so, but that's just a hunch. He'll last through the season but will be out come new year. This season is over. Two overreactions here!
birdog1960 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/21669/ej-manuels-meltdown-puts-bills-trade-of-matt-cassel-in-spotlight Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Bills coaches going to be angrier than ever about trading Matt Cassel - and they weren't happy before... Edited October 25, 2015 by birdog1960
Rob's House Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Don't disagree with anything. With the exception of EJ was a Nix pick his last year as GM. " I am not leaving until I have a franchise QB in place". It matters not. Once Whaley went "all in" on EJ he may as well have drafted him. Desperately, pathetically, and stupidly clinging to the belief that EJ was going to be the guy was far more destructive than the pick itself.
jeffismagic Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 EJ was a swing for the fences. He didn't work out. I have no problem with a team without a QB drafting a QB. For all the fire Whaley people, please list your GM candidates. I am not saying Whaley is untouchable. Just prove you have an upgrade. We drafted Darby, Miller, and Karlos this year. Added Shady, Clay, and Tyrod through FA and trades. That's a good off season.
Best Player Available Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 It matters not. Once Whaley went "all in" on EJ he may as well have drafted him. Desperately, pathetically, and stupidly clinging to the belief that EJ was going to be the guy was far more destructive than the pick itself. yes, I understand that logic. i still see the look of horror on Polians face when Berman asks him. Would you have picked EJ at 16? Moments After the pick. On ESPN.
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Doug Whaley has missed on exactly one real good QB that he could have had(Russell Wilson) that completely changed his mechanics from college to the pros. Besides that he has improved every unit we have, some of them by a large margin. All that being said the Bills need to step up and start showing the world that the talent will translate into wins or Whaley might be gone at the end of the year.
stinky finger Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Whaley will be gone and Rex and his staff should be. Unfortunately, Rex and Co. will be back.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) EJ was a swing for the fences. He didn't work out. I have no problem with a team without a QB drafting a QB. For all the fire Whaley people, please list your GM candidates. I am not saying Whaley is untouchable. Just prove you have an upgrade. We drafted Darby, Miller, and Karlos this year. Added Shady, Clay, and Tyrod through FA and trades. That's a good off season. Eliot Wolf would be #1 on the list of GM candidates. Top priority would be to seek permission and interview as soon as possible. Edited October 25, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever
Deranged Rhino Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 You shouldn't have to look back. It's looking at you in the face already. But I get your point and I certainly agree that the casual fans will spin this narrative once this season goes down the crapper.
stinky finger Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Not true. I think people are forgetting how little talent was on this roster just 4 years ago. It takes time to rebuild a roster which had been built on the cheap for a decade -- and Whaley's in year 2. Wait. Wasn't this supposed to be a playoff team this year?
26CornerBlitz Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Buddy missed on exactly one real good QB that he could have had(Russell Wilson) that completely changed his mechanics from college to the pros. Besides that he has improved every unit we have, some of them by a large margin. All that being said the Bills need to step up and start showing the world that the talent will translate into wins or Whaley might be gone at the end of the year. FTFY
Deranged Rhino Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Wait. Wasn't this supposed to be a playoff team this year? Year's not over.
Heels20X6 Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Lol, Cowboys run it into the red zone, Cassel throws ducks to settle for a field goals. We should have kept him. Clearly.
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