Captain_Quint Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yeah, and it's not like either of them have been to the playoffs. Oh, wait ... Always amazes me how Bills fans disparage other team's QBs when we haven't had anyone of that quality since Bledsoe. Not saying I love Stafford, but beggars can't be choosers. I agree. He'll be the next $100mm man and I cant see Detroit trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Have there been any rumblings about the possibility of trading for Stafford? Mort & Schefter of ESPN report that he could be available if the Lions want to make a move towards the future. He has no guaranteed money past this year and although comes with a hefty price tag is a franchise quarterback with proven numbers. Thoughts? I see him as Drew Bledsoe when the Bills got him. He looks pretty until he absolutely needs to perform and then it's "Oops". No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If they don't want him.... I'm guessing that we don't want him either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 would have to dump 4 or 5 starters to get him...Gilmore, Bradham, Mario probably.... you willing to do that? ever hear of that nasty little think called the salary cap? nah, i'll take TT over Stafford in today's NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If they don't want him.... I'm guessing that we don't want him eitherNot necessarily. We're at a different point in the competitive cylcle. If the Lions are smart, they'll realize that their run is ending. They may be in denial because Stafford, Suh, Johnson & Co. never took them to the promised land, but the fact is they're past their peak. The Bills, on the other hand, are built to win now. Which so far, they're not doing. So if we go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs (or even if we sneak in but go one and out), it only makes sense to explore other ways of getting over the hump. I thin there's a fair amount of denial here too. This club is loaded (IF healthy, and with decent QB play) now and probably next year, but with tons of guaranteed money to aging players from 2017 on it won't be pretty. As George Allen used to say, the future is now. would have to dump 4 or 5 starters to get him...Gilmore, Bradham, Mario probably.... you willing to do that? ever hear of that nasty little think called the salary cap? nah, i'll take TT over Stafford in today's NFLOr try to win with a cheapo QB. the rest of the year will tell us where we stand with that. Right now, I'm not optimistic. Not because TT hasn't played well enough. He has (just barely). But because so far he hasn't shown much value unless he's willing to run, and of course, he's on the road to proving his critics right that if he runs often and aggressively he isn't likely to stay healthy enough to pin your hopes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yeah, and it's not like either of them have been to the playoffs. Oh, wait ... Always amazes me how Bills fans disparage other team's QBs when we haven't had anyone of that quality since Bledsoe. Not saying I love Stafford, but beggars can't be choosers. Or maybe it's just easier for other teams in weaker divisions and conferences to make the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Not necessarily. We're at a different point in the competitive cylcle. If the Lions are smart, they'll realize that their run is ending. They may be in denial because Stafford, Suh, Johnson & Co. never took them to the promised land, but the fact is they're past their peak. The Bills, on the other hand, are built to win now. Which so far, they're not doing. So if we go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs (or even if we sneak in but go one and out), it only makes sense to explore other ways of getting over the hump. I thin there's a fair amount of denial here too. This club is loaded (IF healthy, and with decent QB play) now and probably next year, but with tons of guaranteed money to aging players from 2017 on it won't be pretty. As George Allen used to say, the future is now. Or try to win with a cheapo QB. the rest of the year will tell us where we stand with that. Right now, I'm not optimistic. Not because TT hasn't played well enough. He has (just barely). But because so far he hasn't shown much value unless he's willing to run, and of course, he's on the road to proving his critics right that if he runs often and aggressively he isn't likely to stay healthy enough to pin your hopes on. he is what, 25 ..and they would be willing to get rid of him so they can tank? Rebuild? No, he's young enough that they can add a few players, change coaches, etc and make another playoff run if he's is indeed a franchise QB. Because it is way too hard to find those guys - if they already have the most important piece they will not let him go, they will add players around him. If he's not that guy... then he's not going to help us either. Edited October 23, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Then we can trade for Johnny Manziel and maybe get JaMarcus Russel to be QB coach. Ooh. The trifecta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Or maybe it's just easier for other teams in weaker divisions and conferences to make the playoffs?You're right. It's not like they have to play Green Bay twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I would love to have Stafford on this team. Tyrod and EJ are holding us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Or maybe it's just easier for other teams in weaker divisions and conferences to make the playoffs? Yes, the NFC North doesn't have a HoF QB who kicks everyone's ass like the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatplow Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Franchise QB's are like unicorns these days. Anyone who has one isn't going to part with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 The reason the Lions would part ways with Stafford is because he will be owed a lot of money over the next two seasons, money they could use to rebuild. It's not guaranteed money so that would make it a little easier to trade him. He needs a change of scenery and I would take a quarterback with a 5000 yard season under his belt who is only 27 years old over anything we have know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 If the lions were foolish enough to trade him, the Bills would be wise to make a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I see him as a upgrade between the Jay Cutler - Philip Rivers level... I would rather have rivers but going below that line of talent I think stafford is next...he never really had a solid running game, again he has had Johnson his whole career.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) The Bills have their franchise QB. Tyrod Taylor will get the Bills to the playoffs. THIS^^^^ 8===D~ PLAYOFFS! HARD ROD FOR TYROD PLAYOFFS! 8==D~ Edited October 24, 2015 by TallskiWallski83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I like Tyrod for sure and it's way too early to rule him out as the future. I like Stafford too but it would just be too complicated to accomplish acquiring him. Let's just hope that in 2 years we're in a tough situation having to re-sign Tyrod for all the right reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Have there been any rumblings about the possibility of trading for Stafford? Mort & Schefter of ESPN report that he could be available if the Lions want to make a move towards the future. He has no guaranteed money past this year and although comes with a hefty price tag is a franchise quarterback with proven numbers. Thoughts? he has all the Tools but just doesn't seem to get it done. They would want a lot for him so I would say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 another gunslinger who doesn't get it. thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 THIS^^^^ 8===D~ PLAYOFFS! HARD ROD FOR TYROD PLAYOFFS! 8==D~ How long have you been taking steroids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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