RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 With all the Rex bashing going on for the pathetic play of our defense (which, if you consider the talent, in my mind is the worst/most underperforming in the league)--where is the accountability for Dennis Thurman? At some point, Rex is going to need to be a HC, and let the DC be the DC. Personally I'd can Thurman, hire a real DC (Schwartz....come back, please!); and tell Ryan he is the HC. No more HC/quasi-DC.
billsfan_34 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 The problem is Rex loves himself and it will never happen. Hes not a good coach and now the game has evolved/passed him by.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Thurman apparently doesn't call the defensive shots. He merely occupies the position. If he is calling the shots, fire him. But Schwartz would never come here unless he has full control of the defense, which he won't with Rex around.
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 Thurman apparently doesn't call the defensive shots. He merely occupies the position. If he is calling the shots, fire him. But Schwartz would never come here unless he has full control of the defense, which he won't with Rex around. Give Rex an ultimatum. If he can't deal with it, both he and Thurman are gone. This is the worst defensive coaching job I've seen, it's worse than Wanny when you consider the talent level of this D.
Nanker Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Yes. Let's fire all the coaches and the front office and then get all new players here. That's the ticket! That's how to build a winner in the NFL.
Chandler#81 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 JMO, but I get the feeling Thurman is just a puppet for Rex. I rarely see Dennis signaling in the calls but regularly see Rex doing it. It seems that for Rex to be a HC and handle all that comes with it, he still really only wants to coach defense, so he has a Yes Man serve that capacitiy. I've seen this before in my many years. His father.
Nanker Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Chan Gailey and Hector Mcgullicutty or whatever his OC's name was.
Best Player Available Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Thurman apparently doesn't call the defensive shots. He merely occupies the position. If he is calling the shots, fire him. But Schwartz would never come here unless he has full control of the defense, which he won't with Rex around. Is this confirmed? or speculation? Just wondering who in the organization would say that?
A Dog Named Kelso Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I do not remember the exact quote, but in yesterdays post game Rex alluded to being the one making the defensive calls. Edited October 19, 2015 by A Dog Named Kelso
Maddog69 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 The fact that Rex got a 5 year deal is starting to really scare me. I'm starting to have buyers remorse
ALF Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 The fact that Rex got a 5 year deal is starting to really scare me. I'm starting to have buyers remorse All guaranteed contracts are risky, especially for players counting against a cap. I prefer incentives as insurance. I blame injuries and a too complex defense that has not been learned yet.
hondo in seattle Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 According to Collision Low Crossers, Rex was intimately involved in the D in New York and I imagine it's the same here. Thurman runs practices and certainly has input. But Rex is the de facto DC. Schwartz was offered a job by Rex but turned it down because he wants to be an independent DC running his own show. He didn't want to have a vague title to help with Rex's show. Rex won't give up his defensive philosophy (he's had good success with it over the years) and Schwartz won't give up his. I can't see the two working together. The fact that Rex got a 5 year deal is starting to really scare me. I'm starting to have buyers remorse I feel ya.
OP Class75 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 According to Collision Low Crossers, Rex was intimately involved in the D in New York and I imagine it's the same here. Thurman runs practices and certainly has input. But Rex is the de facto DC. Schwartz was offered a job by Rex but turned it down because he wants to be an independent DC running his own show. He didn't want to have a vague title to help with Rex's show. Rex won't give up his defensive philosophy (he's had good success with it over the years) and Schwartz won't give up his. I can't see the two working together. This is exactly what bothered me from the very beginning about Rex Ryan and stated so in early threads. Schwartz demonstrated tremendous success in 2014, but Ryan stated from the very start that he was going to fix what was not broken. I saw that as a huge mistake, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now hearing what the defense is saying on top of the total lack of results, I am deeply concerned about the direction.
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