Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Actually, they are on the road to Buffalo where one win will put them in a destination we haven't seen since 1999 ... Facts are hard.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Actually, they are on the road to Buffalo where one win will put them in a destination we haven't seen since 1999 ... Well AJ McCarron and Brandon Weedon are looking like AFC Playoff QBs this season. Whoopty Doo!
The Frankish Reich Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 Well AJ McCarron and Brandon Weedon are looking like AFC Playoff QBs this season. Whoopty Doo! Yes, it is kind of a big Whoopdie Doo! He just beat the Pats. And when I say "he just beat" I really mean it -- he engineered the drives that drove the spike into the heart of the evil empire. We'd be dancing our own Whoopdie Doos if Tyrod (or I forget, am I responding to the Last of the EJ Fanclub?) did something like that.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Yes, it is kind of a big Whoopdie Doo! He just beat the Pats. And when I say "he just beat" I really mean it -- he engineered the drives that drove the spike into the heart of the evil empire. We'd be dancing our own Whoopdie Doos if Tyrod (or I forget, am I responding to the Last of the EJ Fanclub?) did something like that. I'll give them credit for a good win today. No doubt!
The Frankish Reich Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Facts are hard. They certainly are. Denial is always more fun. It's also fun watching Fitzy and the Jets actually having fun playing the game! Winning will do that for you, even if your coach is the somber/businesslike Bowles rather than rah-rah Rex. Edited December 27, 2015 by The Frankish Reich
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 They certainly are. Denial is always more fun. OK. The Jets are a Super Bowl Contender.
Nihilarian Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Bills fans just can't seem to get the hate out of their systems for the players on the failed teams they played for in Buffalo. Fitz still might not be 10-5 good in Buffalo simply because of the failure to build a decent offensive line to protect him. The Bills have a running QB that finds ways to escape the rush by runningOr build a decent receiver corps to have him throw to. My thoughts go back to the days after drafting Sammy Watkins and the FO saying they still need to find that "big" red zone WR target. A great deal of Ironies in the facts that the jets were 4-12 under Ryan last year and are now 10-5 with a new HC. Chan Gailey as the Jets OC and noodle arm Fitz as the QB.
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Better? Maybe. Good enough? No. So moving on wasn't a bad choice
John from Riverside Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Bills fans just can't seem to get the hate out of their systems for the players on the failed teams they played for in Buffalo. Fitz still might not be 10-5 good in Buffalo simply because of the failure to build a decent offensive line to protect him. The Bills have a running QB that finds ways to escape the rush by runningOr build a decent receiver corps to have him throw to. My thoughts go back to the days after drafting Sammy Watkins and the FO saying they still need to find that "big" red zone WR target. A great deal of Ironies in the facts that the jets were 4-12 under Ryan last year and are now 10-5 with a new HC. Chan Gailey as the Jets OC and noodle arm Fitz as the QB. I just think the Rex thing is way more complicated In Rex final 2 years he could not get the help from his GM that was needed.....the whole thing was a tire fire (for instance it is pretty much known Rex asked for corner help to make his D work....he didnt get it) Exit Rex....in come new mgt......and coach.....AND NEW GROCERIES TO WORK WITH Now...everyone is upset with Rex here right not to...me included...but ALL aspects need to be looked at not just try to make a simple view of it. The HC/GM situation with the jets was TOXIC
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I just think the Rex thing is way more complicated In Rex final 2 years he could not get the help from his GM that was needed.....the whole thing was a tire fire (for instance it is pretty much known Rex asked for corner help to make his D work....he didnt get it) Exit Rex....in come new mgt......and coach.....AND NEW GROCERIES TO WORK WITH Now...everyone is upset with Rex here right not to...me included...but ALL aspects need to be looked at not just try to make a simple view of it. The HC/GM situation with the jets was TOXIC Good explanation.
benderbender Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 It is so sweet that there are those still burning a candle for Fitz. Unfortuntely we've seen this show before. But those 4 other teams must be wrong, right?
8-8 Forever? Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Serious question: in 2011, Ryan Fitzpatrick signed his 6 year/$59 million contract extension which would take him through the 2016 season as the Bills starter. Since then, we've been through Fitz, EJ, Kyle Orton, Tyrod Taylor ... and maybe EJ again for a while. What if we'd just let that contract play out? Would we be better or worse off right now? I'm going to have to say better off, since a whole cascade of other events likely wouldn't have happened: drafting EJ, making the Sammy Watkins trade, bringing in Rex Ryan, getting stuck for several years with guaranteed Fitzy dead money that could have been applied to other needs. Easy to dismiss the question with an eye roll emoji, but seriously: what's the argument for exactly how we're better off now -- and maybe more importantly, in 2017 and on -- than we would have been if we'd just let that contract play out? Remember, Fitzy and the Texans beat us last year, and Fitzy's Jets are 4-1 this year. No, he hasn't gone to the playoffs, but unless I missed it, neither have the Bills ... no monday morning QB please. leave the past in the past
Bronc24 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Fitz found the right place with the right mix of offensive scheme and players for his talents. We had neither. Now, if your question was "would we be better off with Todd Bowles", my answer would be yes, absolutely. Edited December 28, 2015 by Bronc24
xsoldier54 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Apples and Oranges. Fitz has a decent defense and ours has been putrid. He would not have helped us get to the playoffs with this D. The Jets are a more complete team and he has been a good fit for them, but not for us.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I agree but Rex has also proven to be toxic here. Loll you are in denial. I am? Yes I am. Fitz and the NYJ are SB 50 favorites. They should win it all!
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Who said that? They can certainly play with any team in the AFC. They are playing as good as anyone right now. Conversely, any team in the AFC can play with them. They're a mediocre lot with a mediocre QB and their 1st quality win was today.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Lol. You won't budge. Think what you want keep believing that. Why should I budge on anything? They have feasted on a weak schedule this season. Good win today! Super Bowl bound now? I guess so with some reactions I'm seeing.
Mark Vader Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Actually, they are on the road to Buffalo where one win will put them in a destination we haven't seen since 1999 ... This is true, and I will give the jets and Fitzpatrick credit for that. Does this mean that the Bills would have been better off with Fitzpatrick? No.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Super bowl bound? No. They may win a game in the playoffs but that would be it, IMO. Still they just beat arguably the best team in the AFC today and have won most of their games on a weak schedule. They are a solid football team and Fitz is also playing great football and will most likely go 11-5. How is that not a good team? I get it, it sucks to admit this considering they are sticking it to us in a way, but you are clearly wrong. What am I wrong about? They have indeed benefited greatly from a weak schedule and lost to the Eagles, Texans, Raiders, and Bills among their 5 losses. They're not a good IMO. I remember when the Chicago Bears went 13-3 under Dick Jauron and promptly got exposed as a fraud in the playoffs. Regular season record doesn't tell you all about a team. Edited December 28, 2015 by 26CornerBlitz
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