26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 @AdamSchefter Not hard to see where Blake Bortles' improvement has come in first 5 games this year compared to first 5 last year.
Dorkington Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 The Jags game won't be the cake walk we all assumed it would be.
prissythecat Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Isn't the much maligned Nate Hackett the QB coach for the Jags.
Nanker Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 It's all due to their OLine. I hear they have an awesome OLine coach.
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Only game I've seen of his was Jags vs Colts. he was terrible when it counted. Couldn't hit open guys, rattled under pressure. He may be better than last year, but his stats may be a bit inflated due to his defense forcing him to pass the whole game. But I really like 2 of his WRs and Julius Thomas is back.
FLFan Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 @AdamSchefter Not hard to see where Blake Bortles' improvement has come in first 5 games this year compared to first 5 last year. Turnovers are down, but completion % is under 58% and YPA under 7. He is hardly ready for Canton, but does look improved, although that's not saying much since he was flat out horrible last year. Enough improvement to give the Jags fan hope, wherever he is.
LB3 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 The Jags game won't be the cake walk we all assumed it would be. I still view it as a game the Bills should win easily as long as they stay under 15 penalties.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Huh...it's almost like sticking with young, developmental QB who has all the physical tools through rough patches and not yanking him the moment he makes a mistake means that he can improve...weird. Though it should be noted that he is also the beneficiary of playing a blowout prevent defense vs NE, Dolphins, Colts and Bucs...
hondo in seattle Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Do young QBs really get better with playing time? It's a novel concept! Edited October 16, 2015 by hondo in seattle
BillsVet Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 How much did Dave Caldwell invest in TE's and WR's his first 3 drafts on the job? (2013-2015) Two 2014 2nd round picks in Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson, the latter of whom is playing exceptionally well. Allen Hurns is also productive, a UDFA. And sure, so far the Julius Thomas UFA signing hasn't been great. Meanwhile, the Bills have invested 2 1sts (Watkins), a 2nd (Woods), and a 3rd (Goodwin). Not to mention signing UFAs Harvin and Clay. Caldwell prioritized getting the QB in the draft and didn't make excuses. In Buffalo, it's "QB purgatory."
The Big Cat Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 ...with losses to the Bucs and Colts on his team's way to a 1-4 record. How much did Dave Caldwell invest in TE's and WR's his first 3 drafts on the job? (2013-2015) Two 2014 2nd round picks in Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson, the latter of whom is playing exceptionally well. Allen Hurns is also productive, a UDFA. And sure, so far the Julius Thomas UFA signing hasn't been great. Meanwhile, the Bills have invested 2 1sts (Watkins), a 2nd (Woods), and a 3rd (Goodwin). Not to mention signing UFAs Harvin and Clay. Caldwell prioritized getting the QB in the draft and didn't make excuses. In Buffalo, it's "QB purgatory." Remind us all again which QB the present regime that made those moves was in a position to draft?
BillsVet Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) ...with losses to the Bucs and Colts on his team's way to a 1-4 record. Remind us all again which QB the present regime that made those moves was in a position to draft? Did Bortles' career end already? Because it sure looks like the Jags have a better prospect at QB for the future than Buffalo does. And Caldwell didn't need to spend huge resources on receiving options to support the QB. As for present regime, Nix and Whaley are inexorably linked. Not deciding to take a QB in 2011-12 and perhaps 2014 is why the team is signing low to medium cost options in free agency. Hoping it works is not a strategy worthy of a legitimate NFL franchise. Edited October 16, 2015 by BillsVet
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Huh...it's almost like sticking with young, developmental QB who has all the physical tools through rough patches and not yanking him the moment he makes a mistake means that he can improve...weird. Though it should be noted that he is also the beneficiary of playing a blowout prevent defense vs NE, Dolphins, Colts and Bucs... The Jags are the second youngest team in the league.....same as last year.......if the Bills had such a very young team last year they would have stuck with EJ knowing that their youth would be a limiting factor either way. The Bills roster(10th) is comparable in age to NE(11th) and Seattle(12th). In fact, the Seattle roster was actually YOUNGER than the Bills last year(7th versus 10th). Even at 10th I think that number is misleadingly low because the Bills have a lot of key vets starting. The timing wasn't right to sacrifice a season when EJ was getting lost. I think sitting did EJ a lot of good. Didn't seem to hurt Tyrod sitting for 4 years. He is dispelling the notion that you can't learn from the sideline unless you are a super-prospect like Aaron Rodgers.
fridge Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Bortles' first 4 games this year look like EJ Manuel's first 4 last year, with a worse record and yet Bortles is destined for greatness...okay. EJ MANUEL (1st 4 games 2014) 58% - Completion Percentage 6.4 - Yards per attempt 76 - Completions 131 - Attempts 838 - Yards 5 - Touchdowns 3 - Interceptions 2-2 - W/L Record BLAKE BORTLES (1st 4 games 2015) 54% - Completion Percentage 6.5 - Yards per attempt 85 - Completions 156 - Attempts 996 - Yards 6 - Touchdowns 3 - Interceptions 1-3 - W/L Record
BADOLBILZ Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Bortles' first 4 games this year look like EJ Manuel's first 4 last year, with a worse record and yet Bortles is destined for greatness...okay. EJ MANUEL (1st 4 games 2014) 58% - Completion Percentage 6.4 - Yards per attempt 76 - Completions 131 - Attempts 838 - Yards 5 - Touchdowns 3 - Interceptions 2-2 - W/L Record BLAKE BORTLES (1st 4 games 2015) 54% - Completion Percentage 6.5 - Yards per attempt 85 - Completions 156 - Attempts 996 - Yards 6 - Touchdowns 3 - Interceptions 1-3 - W/L Record The difference is that those Bills should have been 3-1 or 4-0 at that point, not 2-2. And EJ had just cost them a game and had 2 costly bad games in a row. Had Orton been the starting QB from the outset they likely make the playoffs. Had EJ played thru they probably win only 6-7 games. The team and the coach weren't in a good place to sacrifice a season to develop a QB. 9-7 isn't great but it's a winning season and created some momentum going into the offseason.....momentum that likely helped land Rex and a bunch of key players. The Jags, meanwhile, are where they are supposed to be. A Kyle Orton isn't going to prevent that roster from a losing season.
machine gun kelly Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 The guy who I've liked for awhile as a great backup is Matt Hasselback. He played lights out last week. Too bad we didn't pick him up a couple of years ago. Not as a starter, but an excellent back up.
LeGOATski Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 The difference is that those Bills should have been 3-1 or 4-0 at that point, not 2-2. The Jags, meanwhile, are where they are supposed to be. Ha ha! That is classic.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 @AdamSchefter Not hard to see where Blake Bortles' improvement has come in first 5 games this year compared to first 5 last year. My boy is doing well
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2015 Author Posted October 17, 2015 My boy is doing well Rex and Thurman will certainly measure his progress next week in London.
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