BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Sorry, that's BS. Setting quotas on how many passes he is supposed to get doesn't help the team. Nor does getting your agent involved. And comparing yourself to other #1 WRs in the league. Edited October 16, 2015 by jmc12290
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Why go public with the comments though? I understand his frustration, but nothing good comes from expressing his anger to media. What he said was fine IMO but not who he said it to. Express it to Rex, Roman, Whaley, Tyrod/EJ, etc. behind closed doors. There is no point in letting the national media know. He may have already done it behind closed doors. He talked to the local media (Dunne) not the national media - Rodak ran his own story using the quotes he plucked from Dunne - but I guess it doesn't matter anyway since there isn't a difference anymore. The agent got involved too (very common with things like this as well as playing time). Like I said, confrontation often leads to change. Edited October 16, 2015 by YoloinOhio
QCity Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Is Tyler Dunne crazy? Printing anything negative about Sammy Watkins is a huge insecurity trigger for this fanbase. He may may have just passed Gleason on the Most Hated list. If he isn't careful, he'll catch Rodak real quick.
BarleyNY Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Nor does getting your agent involved. And comparing yourself to other #1 WRs in the league. Agreed. And neither does the "You're making me look bad" comment. That isn't what someone worrying about winning says.
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Agreed. And neither does the "You're making me look bad" comment. That isn't what someone worrying about winning says.the agent said that to the Bills, about himself.
LeGOATski Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Sorry, that's BS. Setting quotas on how many passes he is supposed to get doesn't help the team. Look up his other quotes from earlier in the week then.
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) He may have already done it behind closed doors. He talked to the local media (Dunne) not the national media - Rodak ran his own story using the quotes he plucked from Dunne - but I guess it doesn't matter anyway since there isn't a difference anymore. The agent got involved too (very common with things like this as well as playing time). Like I said, confrontation often leads to change. So if he doesn't get his way behind closed doors, it's ok to unleash your frustration to the media and set specific expected targets for yourself putting pressure on your QBs? What if Sammy doesn't get his way moving forward? What's the next step? Childish antics and unexpected from someone who was personified as a "softspoken hardworker" Edited October 16, 2015 by jmc12290
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) So if he doesn't get his way behind closed doors, it's ok to unleash your frustration to the media and set specific expected targets for yourself putting pressure on your QBs? What if Sammy doesn't get his way moving forward? What's the next step? Childish antics and unexpected from someone who was personified as a "softspoken hardworker" again - the article indicates that this is about much more than "getting his way." It is clearly about winning, and how effectively targeting a #1 WR contributes to that goal. I don't see any "childish antics" anywhere. Sorry. He didn't take out a newspaper ad. He was asked questions by a reporter. He answered the questions honestly and competitively. Make sure to read the actual article, not Rodak's blog. Edited October 16, 2015 by YoloinOhio
LeGOATski Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Maybe the Bills should sign Tahj Boyd...he knew how to get Sammy the ball..
Ohiostyle Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 He's 100% right. But this is dumb to let go public. Did he actually think a journalist wasn't going to publish all of that... selectively? Watkins doesn't strike me a particularly bright.
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) again - the article indicates that this is about much more than "getting his way." It is clearly about winning, and how effectively targeting a #1 WR contributes to that goal. I don't see any "childish antics" anywhere. Sorry. He didn't take out a newspaper ad. He was asked questions by a reporter. He answered the questions honestly and competitively. I disagree. You don't drop names of other receivers in the league and compare targets if it's just about winning. My opinion, if Robert Woods. Percy, or Clay expressed these same feelings, this board would have a complete different tone. Golden boy Sammy can do no wrong. And again- What happens if targets/production don't increase? Everyone knows his demands now. If i'm a betting man, Sammy isn't going to put up OBJ numbers any time soon based on our QB situation. Edited October 16, 2015 by jmc12290
LeGOATski Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I disagree. You don't drop names of other receivers in the league and compare targets if it's just about winning. Those comparisons illustrate his point perfectly. He seems like a smart guy. Plus, he's simply repeating the comparisons that the fans/media use all the time.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I disagree. You don't drop names of other receivers in the league and compare targets if it's just about winning. Especially when the numbers are way off. He's either saying he needs about 40% all of our passes to go to him, or he's saying Roman needs to call 35+ passes per game instead of running so much. He's quoted saying OBJ gets 20 targets, OBJ has 52 targets on the year (just over 10 per game). And in order for OBJ to see that many targets Eli has already thrown 60 more passes on the year than Tyrod has. Clay and Harvin lead the team in targets and targets per game, but that's also including 2 games where Sammy was unavailable and Clay and Harvin were the main receiving weapons.
Charles Romes Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Would interesting to see what Fitz would do with sammy Watkins. For all his faults and limitations Fitz is great at feeding his #1 and if he doesn't have a #1 he will make one. He turned Stevie into a 1 who then slipped into obscurity when Fitz keft. then goes to Tennessee and makes Kendall wright a number 1 who slips back into obscurity when Fitz leaves. Then he makes Deondre Hopkins a 1 in Houston. Now he's resurrecting Brandon Marshalls # 1 stature. Fitz would be feeding sammy 10 plus times without sammy saying a word.
BringBackOrton Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Those comparisons illustrate his point perfectly. He seems like a smart guy. Plus, he's simply repeating the comparisons that the fans/media use all the time. He also seemed like a softspoken hardworker.
enlightener Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Wrong. While Sammy may have missed a catch here or there, he has generally been nothing short of first round quality. He saved our butts in multiple games last year. It's not fair to him if he's not getting targets because we're handing the ball off to Boobie Dixon 10 times. no he saved us and burned us in 2-3 games last year. re watch houston. he completely sucked and cost us that one. also almost cost us detroit by going down like a girl on prom night w his last catch. 53 yard fg because he couldnt get 1 yard of rac. softy sammy is a little girl when hes hurt. so maybe one day he will play like a man...one day.
LeGOATski Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 He also seemed like a softspoken hardworker. He's always been honest.
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