Rob's House Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 Can you please change the thread title to, "Official Mets Thread," so we're not off topic?
Gugny Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 What pisses me off most about the Papelbon/Manziel, errr, Harper fight is that it's the first and only time I've had any positive feelings about something that Papelbon has done. I hate liking him; even for this.
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 What pisses me off most about the Papelbon/Manziel, errr, Harper fight is that it's the first and only time I've had any positive feelings about something that Papelbon has done. I hate liking him; even for this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu43lbTrvOQ how can you not have positive thoughts about this?
bbb Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 What pisses me off most about the Papelbon/Manziel, errr, Harper fight is that it's the first and only time I've had any positive feelings about something that Papelbon has done. I hate liking him; even for this. Can you stay on topic?
KD in CA Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Same-- Bobby V. was the greatest. I remember watching so much Mets baseball that I could predict when Bobby V would hit and run, squeeze, etc. Really great tactician. I loved those early 90 teams. Rey Ordonoez, Bernard Gilkey, Jay Payton, Turk Wendell, Dennis Cook, Edgar Alfonzo, Jon Olerud, Robin Ventura. I still remember Piazza's first game as a Met, hitting that triple in his first AB. I also remember watching live the great 10-run comeback against the Braves. And who can forget Shawn Dunston's super long at bat in the NLCS against the Braves, right after I thought he blew it in the field. I used to really follow the Mets, but when Art Howe came to town, and then the Mets started trying to out-spend everyone (e.g., Mo Vaughn, Johan Santana), I stopped following them. I felt like they became too big market for me. I only started re-watching baseball a few years ago, and now just watch the Pirates. That team was great, especially the infield. Ordonez in particular didn't get enough credit for how good he was defensively because of his crappy BA. And he was my mom's favorite player -- who incidentally refused to leave that NLCS game when the rest of her party wanted to go in the rain in extra innings. She talked about that and Ventura's grand slam single the rest of her life. This year's team does have a lot of the spirit of some of those old, scrappy Mets teams. LGM! Edited October 7, 2015 by KD in CT
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 That team was great, especially the infield. Ordonez in particular didn't get enough credit for how good he was defensively because of his crappy BA. And he was my mom's favorite player -- who incidentally refused to leave that ALCS game when the rest of her party wanted to go in the rain in extra innings. She talked about that and Ventura's grand slam single the rest of her life. This year's team does have a lot of the spirit of some of those old, scrappy Mets teams. LGM! My sister wanted to marry ordonez. And how about Jay Payton? That guy was an okay hitter, but always hit lights out against aces. I remember he had like a .450 BA against Randy Johnson. I will have to watch some mets games this postseason, as I fully expect arietta to eliminate the pirates in the WC game.
KD in CA Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) I can't help rooting for Beltran tonight; hitting 3d for the Yankees. Edit: But happy to see Beltran's former outfield mate Carlos Gomez homer for the Astros. Let's Go Ex-Mets! Edited October 7, 2015 by KD in CT
bbb Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I thought Mets fans hated Beltran. They were booing him this year at Citi.
KD in CA Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I thought Mets fans hated Beltran. They were booing him this year at Citi. We're slowly getting over 2006. That pitcher who froze Beltran in game 7 turned out to be pretty decent.
Gugny Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I thought Mets fans hated Beltran. They were booing him this year at Citi. I still hate him for watching strike 3. I do, however, think that he earned his money whilst in Queens. What burned my ass most about Beltran is that he was one of a handful of players who had "other things to do," when the Mets were in Philly and the players were scheduled to visit patients in the local VA hospital. He, Ollie Perez and a couple other guys (can't remember and don't have the time to look it up right now) didn't go. That is more unforgivable than watching strike 3, to me.
bbb Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 We're slowly getting over 2006. That pitcher who froze Beltran in game 7 turned out to be pretty decent. I don't remember who that was? I do remember that I kept saying that was a real life Casey at the Bat situation.
Gugny Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I don't remember who that was? I do remember that I kept saying that was a real life Casey at the Bat situation. Wainright. And at least Casey swung the !@#$ing bat.
billsfan89 Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) The Mets built the team right. When Sandy Alderson took over in 2010 he had a philsophy to build the team around young pitching and getting rid of their bad contracts and trading away their existing good veterans for prospect (With David Wright being an exception). Alderson also let Jose Reyes walk which saddled the Mets with one less bad long term contract and got them draft picks. Each off-season when the Mets wouldn't sign or trade for big contracts Sandy would get a lot of heat. A lot of the trades they made were criticized as cheap. But they got a top pitcher and catching prospect for RA Dickey, they got a stud pitcher for Beltran, and draft picks for Reyes and not being saddled with that contract. They never took on big contracts, they just kept drafting players and developing the young pitching. Two years ago as it was clear they were loaded with pitching they shifted their resources to getting more position players. So over the past 5 years a young core assembled and this season they made the big veteran trades to supplement a rising team that was ready to win. Hopefully with a low payroll they keep Cespedes and grab another bat along with keeping the core of the team. Its been fun to see the team slowly rise with players drafted or developed organically in the organization. They have a great young pitching staff, a very good young closer, a good lineup with some young players and good position players in the minors and their payroll is low with no long term commitments outside of David Wright. Hopefully this results in a long window to win for the Mets. Edited October 7, 2015 by billsfan89
Gugny Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 The Mets built the team right. When Sandy Alderson took over in 2010 he had a philsophy to build the team around young pitching and getting rid of their bad contracts and trading away their existing good veterans for prospect (With David Wright being an exception). Alderson also let Jose Reyes walk which saddled the Mets with one less bad long term contract and got them draft picks. Each off-season when the Mets wouldn't sign or trade for big contracts Sandy would get a lot of heat. A lot of the trades they made were criticized as cheap. But they got a top pitcher and catching prospect for RA Dickey, they got a stud pitcher for Beltran, and draft picks for Reyes and not being saddled with that contract. They never took on big contracts, they just kept drafting players and developing the young pitching. Two years ago as it was clear they were loaded with pitching they shifted their resources to getting more position players. So over the past 5 years a young core assembled and this season they made the big veteran trades to supplement a rising team that was ready to win. Hopefully with a low payroll they keep Cespedes and grab another bat along with keeping the core of the team. I agree wholeheartedly.
KD in CA Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Yup, Sandy has done a bang up job. It was a five year rebuild in an era where no one wants to hear it'll take that long, but he stuck to his guns. Letting Reyes go was the best decision ever. Article about him from a Rockies writer...ouch. http://www.purplerow.com/2015/10/6/9457281/jose-reyes-contract-declining-performance-contract-trade-rumors
bbb Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Wainright. And at least Casey swung the !@#$ing bat. True!
eball Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 The Mets built the team right. When Sandy Alderson took over in 2010 he had a philsophy to build the team around young pitching and getting rid of their bad contracts and trading away their existing good veterans for prospect (With David Wright being an exception). Alderson also let Jose Reyes walk which saddled the Mets with one less bad long term contract and got them draft picks. Each off-season when the Mets wouldn't sign or trade for big contracts Sandy would get a lot of heat. A lot of the trades they made were criticized as cheap. But they got a top pitcher and catching prospect for RA Dickey, they got a stud pitcher for Beltran, and draft picks for Reyes and not being saddled with that contract. They never took on big contracts, they just kept drafting players and developing the young pitching. Two years ago as it was clear they were loaded with pitching they shifted their resources to getting more position players. So over the past 5 years a young core assembled and this season they made the big veteran trades to supplement a rising team that was ready to win. Hopefully with a low payroll they keep Cespedes and grab another bat along with keeping the core of the team. Its been fun to see the team slowly rise with players drafted or developed organically in the organization. They have a great young pitching staff, a very good young closer, a good lineup with some young players and good position players in the minors and their payroll is low with no long term commitments outside of David Wright. Hopefully this results in a long window to win for the Mets. Good post. I'm a long suffering Mets fan and this season has been really fun. I hope Harvey "gets right" and has a long term future with the team. How many more years are we paying Bobby Bonilla? That's still one of the funniest (saddest) things in sports.
Gugny Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Good post. I'm a long suffering Mets fan and this season has been really fun. I hope Harvey "gets right" and has a long term future with the team. How many more years are we paying Bobby Bonilla? That's still one of the funniest (saddest) things in sports. We pay him $1.19 million every year until 2035. In addition to having the worst owners in all of sports, they've had some really bad GMs, too. I mean, $1.2 million/year is pennies to a baseball team, so it's not that it hurts the Mets financially. But the fact that they basically rewarded a piece of crap, who contributed nothing positive to the team, with a handsome pension is a ball-buster. I still think the Mo Vaughn, Oliver Perez and Jason Bay deals were far worse than the Bonilla buyout. Steve Phillips and Omar Minaya were horrible.
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