FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 They have QB coaches in the film room and on the sidelines, I'll never buy that argument. There are all kinds of "mentors" you can surround a player with that don't need a roster spot. If he needs another mentor, hire some recently retired QB to hang out with EJM. You should take it up with David Lee, who's been singing Cassel's praises for how much he's helped the young QB's along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) You should take it up with David Lee, who's been singing Cassel's praises for how much he's helped the young QB's along. Yeah, well they were grasping for nice things to say about Cassel... "oh boy, you should see him in the film room!". David Lee didn't say "He is doing a great job, at a level that I just can't imagine anyone else achieving". Sure Cassel has some usefulness, but that doesn't mean his "mentoring" role would be hard to replace. And I'm sure there are other ex-players out there that would take an Asst. QB Coach job. Edited September 23, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'd rather hear what Chris Palmer has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah, well they were grasping for nice things to say about Cassel... "oh boy, you should see him in the film room!". David Lee didn't say "He is doing a great job, at a level that I just can't imagine anyone else achieving". Sure Cassel has some usefulness, but that doesn't mean he is irreplaceable. And I'm sure there are other ex-players out there that would take an Asst. QB Coach job. Well we replaced him with David Vaughn. So that's a good step. We'll see if this 5th round pick in two years is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well we replaced him with David Vaughn. So that's a good step. We'll see if this 5th round pick in two years is worth it. Is worth what? Anything you can get for Cassel is "worth it". It's already worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 EJ Manuel: "They believe in me" (2:30)Bills quarterback EJ Manuel talks about moving up the depth chart, his progression with the offense, and his reaction to the trade of Matt Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Is worth what? Anything you can get for Cassel is "worth it". It's already worth it. Let's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Nicely done, 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well we replaced him with David Vaughn. So that's a good step. We'll see if this 5th round pick in two years is worth it. Maybe you're overestimating Cassel's value as a player/QB. He was signed to be the disaster option in case TT and EJ failed. They didn't, they showed they were equally better or just plain better than him up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Maybe you're overestimating Cassel's value as a player/QB. He was signed to be the disaster option in case TT and EJ failed. They didn't, they showed they were equally better or just plain better than him up to this point. Is that why we re-signed him as the #2 two weeks ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Which is more valuable to a franchise? A #2 QB that has extensive NFL starting experience and can thus work the practices and the games with the #1 QB who has very litttle starting experience while offering no long term value himself or a #2 QB who is showing signs of developing into the QB he was drafted to be and needs more experience within its offense and its weekly gameplans. That's two different visions for the role. So, to say that Matt was the better QB for the first two weeks because EJ didn't dress is to ignore that there are different reasons a QB could be best suited to be #2. A short term one (for Tyrod's benefit) or a longer term one (who has more to offer should they become #1.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Which is more valuable to a franchise? A #2 QB that has extensive NFL starting experience and can thus work the practices and the games with the #1 QB who has very litttle starting experience while offering no long term value himself or a #2 QB who is showing signs of developing into the QB he was drafted to be and needs more experience within its offense and its weekly gameplans. That's two different visions for the role. So, to say that Matt was the better QB for the first two weeks because EJ didn't dress is to ignore that there are different reasons a QB could be best suited to be #2. A short term one (for Tyrod's benefit) or a longer term one (who has more to offer should they become #1.) Or we could have both. And "win now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 EJ Manuel: "They believe in me" (2:30) I didn't like that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Is that why we re-signed him as the #2 two weeks ago? It was a smart move by Whaley. he brought back Cassel at a discounted rate. Whaley also now has two weeks of live game to evaluate Taylor. Whaley and the coaches believe Taylor is the guy and that EJ can back him up. Let Cassel go and get what you can for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I didn't like that interview. EJ knows what his promotion means With the trade of Matt Cassel to Dallas, EJ Manuel is now the team’s backup quarterback behind Tyrod Taylor. Manuel knows how the urgency of his role changes now being in the number two spot. “For me, I’m in the second position now, I know I am one play away from getting back on the field,” Manuel said. “I have to do my job as a backup now, be prepared and be ready to go if my number gets called any of these Sundays.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I didn't like that interview. why? I haven't had a chance to listen yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Is that why we re-signed him as the #2 two weeks ago? He was re-signed in the cheap, at his actual and current worth in the league, vet minimum. When they cut him they didn't seem to worried with EJ backing up TT. With what transpired in the last two weeks, it was a shrewd move by Rogue Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I didn't like that interview. I have absolutely no idea why you would say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He was re-signed in the cheap, at his actual and current worth in the league, vet minimum. When they cut him they didn't seem to worried with EJ backing up TT. With what transpired in the last two weeks, it was a shrewd move by Rogue Whaley. Eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Or we could have both. And "win now." Gameweek practice can only accommodate getting 1 QB fully prepared to play and 1 QB to play, if needed, but without nearly as much preparation. You can't really have both at the same time. EJ was probably doing well with the scout team work and it could have helped him with decision making, throwing mechanics, use of time and space and overall accuracy but that was doing nothing to help him grow in Greg Roman's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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