Freddie's Dead Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 If you don't think that getting a 5th for Cassel is a good deal, you are WOEFULLY misinformed about the general draft pick trade value for players. Only a team in desperate QB need would even remotely consider giving up a 5th for him. The Bills got MAXIMUM value. I'm fine with the 5th. I just don't understand why we had to give them Cassel AND a 7th for the 5th.
ALF Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Hope Cassel can meet the conditions for the Bills to receive a 5th rd pick. Have not seen the fine print yet. Considering he was cut by the Bills before start of season and no team signed him was a good deal for Buffalo. Good players walk away FAs all the time for nothing in return. Well done Doug Whaley
The Poojer Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Are there conditions to this? Sounds like a straight up Cassell & 2017 7th rounder for Cowboys 2017 5th rounder. Hope Cassel can meet the conditions for the Bills to receive a 5th rd pick. Have not seen the fine print yet. Considering he was cut by the Bills before start of season and no team signed him was a good deal for Buffalo. Good players walk away FAs all the time for nothing in return. Well done Doug Whaley
ALF Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Are there conditions to this? Sounds like a straight up Cassell & 2017 7th rounder for Cowboys 2017 5th rounder. @JasonLaCanfora: The Bills will receive a conditional 2017 draft pick from the Cowboys for back-up QB Matt Cassel. I hope its a straight up trade
Manther Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 So in the past 14 days we have cut cassel, signed him, started him, and traded him. Hilarious and true!
Maury Ballstein Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 On the face of it, this trade makes little sense. Given that the 5th we're getting is two years from now, Cassel alone should have been plenty. Why would we have to also cough up a 7th? I hope the early reports are wrong, because Cassel and a 7th for a 5th two years from now does not seem like a good trade. Cowboys don't have a 5th or 6th next year. So we waited for the next one available. Good deal for dead weight, especially if he's miffed about Tyrod getting the job. Cant teach an old dog new tricks. Why are any of you acting like Matt Cassel was gonna make a positive impact on this team? Not a big loss IMO. 7th into 5th is a win.
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I'm fine with the 5th. I just don't understand why we had to give them Cassel AND a 7th for the 5th. The 7th in 2 years is worth near literally nothing. If that's hanging you up you must not sleep at night when you see people not bend over to pick up a penny on the sidewalk
Fadingpain Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Bills 5th round draft selections going back to 2000: Karlos Williams Cyril Richardson Jonathan Meeks Zebrie Sanders Tank Carder Johnny White Ed Wang Nic Harris Alvin Bowen KYLE WILLIAMS Brad Butler Eric King Ben Sobieski Justin Bannan Marques Sullivan Sammy Morris
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Bills 5th round draft selections going back to 2000: Karlos Williams Cyril Richardson Jonathan Meeks Zebrie Sanders Tank Carder Johnny White Ed Wang Nic Harris Alvin Bowen KYLE WILLIAMS Brad Butler Eric King Ben Sobieski Justin Bannan Marques Sullivan Sammy Morris i thought Duke was in the 5th and Meeks in the 6th in 2013. Fwiw.
Solomon Grundy Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Bills 5th round draft selections going back to 2000: Karlos Williams Cyril Richardson Jonathan Meeks Zebrie Sanders Tank Carder Johnny White Ed Wang Nic Harris Alvin Bowen KYLE WILLIAMS Brad Butler Eric King Ben Sobieski Justin Bannan Marques Sullivan Sammy Morris Not a bad list. Morris, Bannan, Butler were major contributors. Kyle Williams is All Pro. The book is still out on Karlos, Meeks, Richardson.
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Hope Cassel can meet the conditions for the Bills to receive a 5th rd pick. Have not seen the fine print yet. Considering he was cut by the Bills before start of season and no team signed him was a good deal for Buffalo. Good players walk away FAs all the time for nothing in return. Well done Doug Whaley i don't think there are any conditions. It's a 5th in 2017.
ALF Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 i don't think there are any conditions. It's a 5th in 2017. Thanks , thats good news
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I'm fine with the 5th. I just don't understand why we had to give them Cassel AND a 7th for the 5th.i am guessing that it is so they have something tangible from the trade after this season. They don't even expect Cassel to play. They are signing him to back up Weeden for 2 months. If no one gets hurt he will be cut after that. If Weeden gets hurt he's gone in February. That's too little ROI for a 5th round pick in any year. Edited September 23, 2015 by YoloinOhio
The Poojer Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 oh sure, you take Yolo's word for it, but throw JasonLaCanfora in my face when I say the same thing....FINE!!!! Be that way... Thanks , thats good news
Dopey Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Over/under on how many pages till this becomes another EJ thread? Since you already started the "EJ" thing on page 1, I'll go with under 2 pages. That doesn't even make any sense. Sure it does.
LB3 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 i thought Duke was in the 5th and Meeks in the 6th in 2013. Fwiw. Duke was 4th and Meeks was 5th. Hopkins was 6th.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 @TBNSports Vic Carucci's 3 #Bills thoughts this morning: QB, QB & ... QB. @viccarucci at BN Blitz: http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/09/23/vic-caruccis-3-bills-thoughts-manuel-moves-up/
The Poojer Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I've heard more than once, admittedly on this board(and probably in this thread) that Manuel WAS the #2 QB and that in case TT got hurt, Cassell was going in to finish the game and that if need be EJ would be the next game starter...anyone know the real story behind the QB depth up until yesterday? @TBNSports Vic Carucci's 3 #Bills thoughts this morning: QB, QB & ... QB. @viccarucci at BN Blitz: http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/09/23/vic-caruccis-3-bills-thoughts-manuel-moves-up/
eball Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 @TBNSports Vic Carucci's 3 #Bills thoughts this morning: QB, QB & ... QB. @viccarucci at BN Blitz: http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/09/23/vic-caruccis-3-bills-thoughts-manuel-moves-up/ Poor, poor Vic. He's had some of the most negative takes on Taylor's play from Sunday, and he just still can't get over "his boy" Cassel being traded.
stevewin Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Wow. So it WAS Cassel who gave the P*A*T*S* his playbook. Justice is swift at OBD! Farewell Benedict Cassel. Ha - that's the first thing I thought - now the Pats** won't have our gameplan the next time we play them
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