Uffalo Ills Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) While I know that our defense was the worst part of the team yesterday, the oline didn't look to hot either (8 sacks and poor showing on passing downs, also breakdowns on some rushing plays later on in the half). I also realize that the pats********* were showing up with 8 man fronts after the first few drives but honestly their play was atrocious anyway. If I'm not mistaken kromer is suspended for another 4 games, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks his presence in games could make this unit look as good as it did during the preseason. Hopefully so. Go Bills! Edited September 21, 2015 by Uffalo Ills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Possibly. I don't think the line was as bad as everyone was making them out to be. Tyrod hung onto the ball much longer yesterday than the week before and the run game looked better this week. Room for improvement, of course, but I thought they were OK. I know PFF isn't everyone's bag, but they did grade Richie, Wood and Glenn our three best players yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 While I know that our defense was the worst part of the team yesterday, the oline didn't look to hot either (8 sacks and poor showing on passing downs, also breakdowns on some rushing plays later on in the half). I also realize that the pats********* were showing up with 8 man fronts after the first few drives but honestly their play was atrocious anyway. If I'm not mistaken kromer is suspended for another 4 games, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks his presence in games could make this unit look as good as it did during the preseason. Hopefully so. Go Bills! No. Kromer can't make them block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Kromerica worked with the line a lot in camp, and I'm sure he's still reviewing film and providing suggestions off the books, he just cant attend practices or games. don't think coaching is our issue, but it will be good to have him back on the practice field and the film room with the guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Lots of people are ragging on the o-line but I thought they were decent yesterday. Tyrod had time to throw, but often he held the ball too long or couldn't make the reads. Those sacks were on Tyrod as much as on the o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Am I the only one not throwing the D under the bus yesterday. While I don't give them a free pass, we turned the ball over 3 times and went 3 and out 5 times in a row at one point on the other side of the ball. Historically you give Brady 3 extra possessions he's going to tear you apart and hang 500 yards on you. I was more upset with offensive play than defensive play yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Am I the only one not throwing the D under the bus yesterday. While I don't give them a free pass, we turned the ball over 3 times and went 3 and out 5 times in a row at one point on the other side of the ball. Historically you give Brady 3 extra possessions he's going to tear you apart and hang 500 yards on you. I was more upset with offensive play than defensive play yesterday. TT was awful when they stacked the box, but the D needs to be able to abuse an O line w/ an undrafted rookie center. No excuse for the defensive line play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Completely agree and mentioned it in Bill from NYC thread. Tyrod was extremely slow in his decision making and it resulted in sacks and negative plays. On top of that he was first read and if that wasn't there he would either check down or scramble. This needs to improve. I would have loved to see him check down or scramble. How it looked to me was after his first read he would think about scrambling but then stop and look around more and then would take the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The offensive line looked just fine to me. At the end of the day there isn't an offensive line in the NFL that's going to give someone the amount of time that Taylor was using to make decisions. 3.5-3.0 seconds is generally the guideline of what a quarterback is shooting for. Yesterday, TT was WAY beyond that. You could see him just getting completely lost with what was going on. Hopefully it's the exception and he'll improve, but I wouldn't say by any stretch that we have a "situation" with the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I do think it will help to have him back, especially on the sidelines on gameday. I do think they look much better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 While I know that our defense was the worst part of the team yesterday, the oline didn't look to hot either (8 sacks and poor showing on passing downs, also breakdowns on some rushing plays later on in the half). I also realize that the pats********* were showing up with 8 man fronts after the first few drives but honestly their play was atrocious anyway. If I'm not mistaken kromer is suspended for another 4 games, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks his presence in games could make this unit look as good as it did during the preseason. Hopefully so. Go Bills! i believe kromer's suspension is 6 games, not 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Well considering Kromer isn't int he building because he is serving a suspension and the guy manning the post is a hold over from Doug Marrone i think you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) i believe kromer's suspension is 6 games, not 4 it is, but he said "another" 4 games as they've already played 2 Edited September 21, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 it is, but he said "another" 4 games as they've already played 2 apparently, i read at a 3rd-grade level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Am I the only one not throwing the D under the bus yesterday. While I don't give them a free pass, we turned the ball over 3 times and went 3 and out 5 times in a row at one point on the other side of the ball. Historically you give Brady 3 extra possessions he's going to tear you apart and hang 500 yards on you. I was more upset with offensive play than defensive play yesterday. Valid points but you said it, they still let over 500 yards of offence. Regardless if the bills gave them extra possessions or not that is an eye opening number. But you are correct, against brady you can't go three and out multiple times in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I thought the charges were dropped. Kromer should have come back when Brady did. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Bellicheat pulled off some exotic looks and pressures himself. Hopefully this inspires Greg Roman to incorporate some of the 2 step game for situations where the pass protection is evidently not going to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No. Kromer can't make them block. Dont tell Kromer what he can and cannot do! Possibly. I don't think the line was as bad as everyone was making them out to be. Tyrod hung onto the ball much longer yesterday than the week before and the run game looked better this week. Room for improvement, of course, but I thought they were OK. I know PFF isn't everyone's bag, but they did grade Richie, Wood and Glenn our three best players yesterday. This Lots of people are ragging on the o-line but I thought they were decent yesterday. Tyrod had time to throw, but often he held the ball too long or couldn't make the reads. Those sacks were on Tyrod as much as on the o-line. and this The offensive line looked just fine to me. At the end of the day there isn't an offensive line in the NFL that's going to give someone the amount of time that Taylor was using to make decisions. 3.5-3.0 seconds is generally the guideline of what a quarterback is shooting for. Yesterday, TT was WAY beyond that. You could see him just getting completely lost with what was going on. Hopefully it's the exception and he'll improve, but I wouldn't say by any stretch that we have a "situation" with the offensive line. not sure about this. plenty of mistakes. saw Richie look to Wood with a wtf where you thinking dude? Bellicheat pulled off some exotic looks and pressures himself. Hopefully this inspires Greg Roman to incorporate some of the 2 step game for situations where the pass protection is evidently not going to be great. good eye. TT is going to have some trust some timing throws. and the pocket did collapse nicely once or twice, as it should. Trust is not given but earned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The !@#$ing Pats**** have been playing in the same system for over a decade. You pissant hand wringing wannabe Geneal Managers don't have a clue if you're so myopic that a single loss makes you want to blow the whole !@#$ing thing up and start over... AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Possibly. I don't think the line was as bad as everyone was making them out to be. Tyrod hung onto the ball much longer yesterday than the week before and the run game looked better this week. Room for improvement, of course, but I thought they were OK. I know PFF isn't everyone's bag, but they did grade Richie, Wood and Glenn our three best players yesterday. Agree, Tyrod looked half overwhelmed out there. The line allowed both Shady and KW to have over 5 ypc. It couldn't have been too bad, particularly given the heavy fronts of the Pat D. I'm down on Roman who can't seem to understand that if you don't go deep every so often they stuff the box and life becomes twice as difficult as it already is. TT was awful when they stacked the box, but the D needs to be able to abuse an O line w/ an undrafted rookie center. No excuse for the defensive line play. And a rookie G too, the G that we should have taken instead of Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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