BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Seems as though Tyrod's ceiling is Michael Vick... No Higher... Could be enough for a playoff run, but nothing really deep... He's the perfect placeholder for Chad kelly. Why yes, because ceilings are decided after a player's second career start. Edited September 21, 2015 by jmc12290
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, if so please delete. Our starting QB sucked today. He was slow to get the ball out, he was poor with his decision making, and he was unable to decide what to do quickly. Major fail from Taylor and the OL. Glenn got soundly beaten by Jones. If your QB can't make up his mind and your OL can't protect you are out of the conversation. We deserve any ridicule we get. IdiotS.
Meatplow Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) No. I'm looking for better QB play than I got today. Is that bad? Isn't ok to criticize our players when they brick? Absolutely it is. However, I've seen much worse stats on QB's that people could make the argument for having a good day. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but when your defense gets steamrolled for 500+ yds there may be bigger fish to fry than the QB that threw for 3 TD's and rushed for an additional one while under SERIOUS duress. Edited September 21, 2015 by Meatplow
Best Player Available Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Seems as though Tyrod's ceiling is Michael Vick... No Higher... Could be enough for a playoff run, but nothing really deep... He's the perfect placeholder for Chad kelly. LOL
Nuncha Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Absolutely it is. However, I've seen much worse stats on QB's that people could make the argument for having a good day. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but when your defense gets steamrolled for 500+ yds there may be bigger fish to fry than the QB that threw for 3 TD's and rushed for an additional one while under SERIOUS duress. ^^^ This...
#34fan Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I think we should give him more than two games before deciding what his ceiling is. Please. He's been around for three years now... Sure, he's vey talented, but the football smarts just aren't there... Ilike the guy... -Grade-A backup... But too much hesitation... If he keeps holding the ball so long, I'll start calling him "Tightwad' Taylor.
Dorkington Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 It's amazing how extreme these threads are... Not just one player or aspect lost us this game. Tyrod struggled... But so did: - the play calling - the offensive line - the defensive scheming - the emotions of the players - the refs eyeballs
Thurmal34 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Posted September 21, 2015 Absolutely it is. However, I've seen much worse stats on QB's that people could make the argument for having a good day. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but when your defense gets steamrolled for 500+ yds there may be bigger fish to fry than the QB that threw for 3 TD's and rushed for an additional one while under SERIOUS duress. Fair enough, and a good point. Was looking for more, I guess. Should not have expected good QB play, I suppose.
BringBackOrton Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Please. He's been around for three years now... Sure, he's vey talented, but the football smarts just aren't there... Ilike the guy... -Grade-A backup... But too much hesitation... If he keeps holding the ball so long, I'll start calling him "Tightwad' Taylor. nice?
moshermw Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Read whole thread. Was shocked at lack of what is normally experienced Bills fans analysis. Looked to me that Roman wanted to kneel it out once we were up 7-0 and then got a 3 and out. What we as fans don't know is how much Roman and Rex allow TT to audible out of a bad play call. Signature game fail play was when the Pats went up by 7 and we had to play from behind first series. On the TV I was watching, on 2nd down, all 11 Pats were in the screen - and we ran. That's 11 in the box and we still ran. Tyrod is a better football mind than mine. But even mine knows you HAVE TO AUDIBLE OUT AND GO DEEP !! That's proof enough for me that TT was limited to whatever Roman called. Roman - if in charge - only called 3 deep balls today - 3. Insane with our WR talent. And if you say TT could do whatever there's there with no fear of repraisal I did not see that and it looked to me that we're back to EJ/Hackett/Marrone - I hope with all hope that I'm wrong. The OC was an absolute idiot today. And TT needs to push back hard if he was limited by him. Almost conspiracy theory **** bad on the unwillingness to go deep. Aside from that, the D-line did not show up and all 4 should turn in their Top 100 .. crap. 2 out of 5 NE OL were rookies. Pathetic showing. The second this TT's fault is the second u didn't really watch or are not a critically thinking football fan. bump for real analysis.
Beerball Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 So to you the horrid playcalling, the dumb ass personal foul/special teams penalties, and the sack at the 1 yard line had nothing to do with the Pats getting their second and third TD's? I suppose you are blaming Taylor for these too. Why don't you go jump on the Patriot bandwagon - you would fit in perfectly with their douchebag fans. Ease up Francis.
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Too high on what should have been an easy completion to an open receiver. Because franchise QBs always make perfect throws
Pneumonic Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 HE SCORED FOUR FRICKEN TOUCHDOWNS And Jonas Gray has a 200 yard rushing game in the NFL to his credit yet, he'll be flipping burgers this time next year, if not before. If Taylor can't get his throws under control and is unable to speed up his decision making, he'll not be long as a starting QB in this league.
Beerball Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Because franchise QBs always make perfect throws It should have been an easy pitch & catch. It doesn't make you less a fan to see that.
SF Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 He played like a guy starting his second game in the NFL against the Super Bowl champs. The O-line didn't help him much and Bellichik put in a good plan to confuse a guy that is essentially a rookie. But, he found his rythym and made some decent plays as the game went on. I think he will be fine. I'm more concerned with our lack of discipline leading to penalties and the D which was not great today. Most teams in this league you can get 32 points and win. Not with Pats. I'm astounded we were in a position to tie at end.
John from Riverside Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 It should have been an easy pitch & catch. It doesn't make you less a fan to see that. That is not what I am pointing out I am pointing out that franchise QBs sometimes throw these balls.......and TEs catch them because they catch difficult passes Fair enough, and a good point. Was looking for more, I guess. Should not have expected good QB play, I suppose. You took what he said and completely twisted it and You still not have given your recommendations on how we would fix our "bad qb situation"
K-9 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I like Tyrod Taylor. But he has a long way to go. Love that he can keep plays alive. But for a guy with such gifted feet, he has a ton to learn about moving around in the pocket. I don't think the film review will be kind to him tomorrow; he had guys open and opportunities to let them make a play but was shy about pulling the trigger. It's a process to be sure and I suspect the kid has the smarts and work ethic to correct the flaws in his game. Can't wait to see how he gets up off the mat and responds. GO BILLS!!!
Beerball Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 That is not what I am pointing out I am pointing out that franchise QBs sometimes throw these balls.......and TEs catch them because they catch difficult passes We could pick nits all day long. It's the night of a tough loss so I suppose I should expect overreactions on both sides. Something wrong with the universe though when FC seems like the voice of reason.
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