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Experts so far agree that it is not identifyable concussions, but more like death from a thousand blows to the brain which have a cumulative, not abupt effect. This makes the NFL's "concussion protocol" a bit of a show.

 

I don't think the league's concussion protocol is a show, exactly. There is evidence that while recovering from one concussion, the brain is more vulnurable to re-injury. A lot of places are using concussion protocols now, right down to middle school girl's basketball.

 

But it doesn't address the issue of CTE, which as you rightly put may arise from cumulative damage from repeated asymptomatic blows to the brain

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I don't think the league's concussion protocol is a show, exactly. There is evidence that while recovering from one concussion, the brain is more vulnurable to re-injury. A lot of places are using concussion protocols now, right down to middle school girl's basketball.

 

But it doesn't address the issue of CTE, which as you rightly put may arise from cumulative damage from repeated asymptomatic blows to the brain

 

The protocols are guesses at best. There is little science behind them. You cannot reliably test by exam when a patient is no longer "concussed" or whent their vulnerability to such re-injury has passed. You really can't ethically do such a study answer that question.

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These are excellent points and highlight the need to interpret results from any such studies very carefully before jumping to conclusions.

I don't think you can really interpret anything other than that we need some properly controlled studies.

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Maybe because a handful of instances of acute trauma are actually less severe than constant sub-concussive trauma. Who knows? There's a hell of a lot of research that still needs doing.

 

Slightly off topic but catchers in baseball really take a beating. Grandal, the catcher for the Dodgers, has been out twice this year after taking foul balls off the mask. Wouldn't surprize me at all if they have the same issue.

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The whole culture of playing through injuries and the constant threat of losing your position in the depth chart (particularly at QB) compounds the concussion issue. Does anyone know how Kevin Kolb is doing?

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Being a Bills fan is a lot like banging your head against a wall. Should we get tested?

Absolutely and dying to be tested is a noble gesture since it can only be diagnosed after death.

 

 

On this subject it is WRONG that they are calling it a disease - it is a condition for it is not due to an infection or any infectious organism. Diseases get less attention than conditions however so players should start calling injuries diseases like ACL and MCL diseases, etc.

 

The studies are so slanted - there are a lot of things besides football that those players have in common - an example is high testosterone and adrenaline levels. There could be other factors as well - diets, commonly used supplements, growth hormones, etc. it appears the NFL is the cash cow that players, even players who played very few years and played more years in high school and college, are attempting milk its teat.

Maybe these guys should stop head butting each other before kickoff

What about goal posts like one ex-QB? Should that be allowed and should NFL provide payments because they did not write up rules specifically to warn player against it?

The whole culture of playing through injuries and the constant threat of losing your position in the depth chart (particularly at QB) compounds the concussion issue. Does anyone know how Kevin Kolb is doing?

Read the link early in thread; Kolb is talked to on it and partially explains why we did not see him on sideline helping with QB evolution after his injury.

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/09/27/brains-under-pressure-concussion-crisis-continues-to-haunt-the-nfl/

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The studies are so slanted - there are a lot of things besides football that those players have in common - an example is high testosterone and adrenaline levels. There could be other factors as well - diets, commonly used supplements, growth hormones, etc. it appears the NFL is the cash cow that players, even players who played very few years and played more years in high school and college, are attempting milk its teat.

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Absolutely and dying to be tested is a noble gesture since it can only be diagnosed after death.

 

 

On this subject it is WRONG that they are calling it a disease - it is a condition for it is not due to an infection or any infectious organism. Diseases get less attention than conditions however so players should start calling injuries diseases like ACL and MCL diseases, etc.

 

The studies are so slanted - there are a lot of things besides football that those players have in common - an example is high testosterone and adrenaline levels. There could be other factors as well - diets, commonly used supplements, growth hormones, etc. it appears the NFL is the cash cow that players, even players who played very few years and played more years in high school and college, are attempting milk its teat.

What about goal posts like one ex-QB? Should that be allowed and should NFL provide payments because they did not write up rules specifically to warn player against it?

Read the link early in thread; Kolb is talked to on it and partially explains why we did not see him on sideline helping with QB evolution after his injury.

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/09/27/brains-under-pressure-concussion-crisis-continues-to-haunt-the-nfl/

Regardless, youth participation in tackle football is declining, and relatively rapidly. The recent death of the NJ high school QB is a big story in the greater NYC area. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/sports/football/As-Worries-Rise-and-Players-Flee-a-Missouri-School-Board-Cuts-Football.html?_r=0 Edited by dave mcbride
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