artmalibu Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Boo! Get an impact player who is 27 for a player coming off a missed season with an ACL? This trade could certainly go either way, and you are right that time will tell, but we got talent on a discount because Chip Kelly wants to run every aspect of his show. As for the aging, we are all aging, but at 27 Thurman had the most carries of his career followed by three more 1000+ seasons in a row. Faulk went over 2000 yards from scrimmage at 27 and 28. I'm not betting on 30 year old Shady to be an impact player, but I'm excited about 27 year old Shady playing for us this year, and 28 year old Shady playing for us next year. If his total carries go down as part of a combo with Karlos, his production and longevity might both go up as a result. I like you optimism, and you bring up some good examples. But, they are the exceptions and not the rule. 4 years from now a 9 million cap hit or cut him for 5 million in dead money. and I hat to be a nay sayer about my Bills but...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I like you optimism, and you bring up some good examples. But, they are the exceptions and not the rule. 4 years from now a 9 million cap hit or cut him for 5 million in dead money. and I hat to be a nay sayer about my Bills but...... You're absolutely right, but nobody is in the mood for the truth. Especially not the last few weeks. It was a stupid trade and a stupider contract extension, but likely not something the Bills can't recover from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 You're absolutely right, but nobody is in the mood for the truth. Especially not the last few weeks. It was a stupid trade and a stupider contract extension, but likely not something the Bills can't recover from. agreed!! Great point and with RB in might be easier to recover from especially if the rookie continues to exceed expectations. They could have a a cheap RB for the next 4 years that would help offset the cap hit. I hope I am wrong and Shady goes to another 3 or 4 pro bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No, because here's what it did -- it allowed the Bills to move on from CJ Spiller. Even if McCoy is limited by the hammy for a bit he's a better and tougher player than CJ. I've had that thought myself. In his career so far, McCoy has been the player we all hoped Spiller would become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 These kinds of lingering injuries happen with increasing frequency when RBs get old and have a lot of mileage. I think we heard that about 5,000 times this summer so why is anyone surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) These kinds of lingering injuries happen with increasing frequency when RBs get old and have a lot of mileage. I think we heard that about 5,000 times this summer so why is anyone surprised? McCoy is 27. What was Thurman's workload up to this point in his career? He was almost never hurt. Gore, AP, Lynch...all 3 plus years older and all are rarely injured. We should get 2 peak years out of McCoy without question. Thurman: 1,731 carries by 27. McCoy who just turned 27 is at 1,478 carries. 2 more peak years. That's what I'd expect. Edited September 18, 2015 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 McCoy is 27. What was Thurman's workload up to this point in his career? He was almost never hurt. Gore, AP, Lynch...all 3 plus years older and all are rarely injured. We should get 2 peak years out of McCoy without question. Thurman: 1,731 carries by 27. McCoy who just turned 27 is at 1,478 carries. 2 more peak years. That's what I'd expect. This is kind of why I hope Karlos gets going. We can extend those 2 years to 4 years if we can lighten up the load for McCoy, and still get good production from the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 McCoy is 27. What was Thurman's workload up to this point in his career? He was almost never hurt. Gore, AP, Lynch...all 3 plus years older and all are rarely injured. We should get 2 peak years out of McCoy without question. Thurman: 1,731 carries by 27. McCoy who just turned 27 is at 1,478 carries. 2 more peak years. That's what I'd expect. Wasn't he injured for half the game last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Wasn't he injured for half the game last week? Earlier in his career, gore was a walking injury. That guy screwed me over in FF so many times, leaving the game after the 1st quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infernus Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Vic Carucci reports that McCoy was back on the practice field today and did not appear limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 #smokescreen CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Give up a good or very good LB that has 2 cheap years left. Get the privilege to pay huge dollars for a aging RB for the next several years, who said he didnt want to come here and trashed his old coach. Time will tell.. Brown and Bradham made Kiko expendable. It's as simple as that. Aging? We're all aging. Didn't want to come here? Instant reaction, blown out of proportion and completely irrelevant Trashed old coach? There's a lot of that going around. Shady is what we wanted CJ to be, and he'll be very good for at least 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 @SiriusXMNFL: INJURY UPDATE: @AdamSchefter is reporting the #Bills are "cautiously optimistic" that LeSean McCoy will play Sunday vs. New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 @SiriusXMNFL: INJURY UPDATE: @AdamSchefter is reporting the #Bills are "cautiously optimistic" that LeSean McCoy will play Sunday vs. New England. That sounds familliar CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 OMG.....can we actually wait until he DOES NOT PLAY for the chicken littles run for friggen cover! Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 OMG.....can we actually wait until he DOES NOT PLAY for the chicken littles run for friggen cover! Christ well that would be boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 McCoy missed most of training camp. It's likely just soreness (like a distance runner would get) that's no big deal. Not an injury, just sore from use in the first game. He will be ready for Pats**** game. OMG.....can we actually wait until he DOES NOT PLAY for the chicken littles run for friggen cover! Christ apparently not. Time to start bashing this trade. The anti-Whaley folks are quite silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 @JoeBuscaglia: #Bills HB Karlos Williams, on the questionable LeSean McCoy: He's not going to miss a big time game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinaccia Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just shut him down, let him truly heal, and place your trust in Karlos Williams. He is more of a downhill runner like Dixon to run behind Felton. McCoy is amazing in space and needs healthy legs. I'd rather lose him for a week or 2 and come back 100%. This stuff about how old he is nuts. He's only 27. He'll be fine. I fully agree with you. People are reacting as if losing a running back is like losing a quarterback. It's not ideal by any stretch of the imagination but it's also not the most cerebral position where a rookie can't adequately replace an experienced running back. It all comes down to opening up holes on the offensive line and the running back protecting the ball. As you have seen with New England for years, they never invested in an elite running back and still managed to do well because of good quarterback play. As long as Tyrod plays like he did last week then it doesn't matter if McCoy is out for a week or two. They should let him heal and come back 100% to really allow him to reach his full potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 @mikerodak: Bills RB Karlos Williams on McCoy: "I guarantee he's gonna be 100 percent on Sunday. Recuperate a couple days, today and tomorrow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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