dave mcbride Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 How do you know? I'm going to take a wild guess. I bet at the end of the season that Manning will have between 27-30 TD passes, 12-15 INTs, 3500 yards, and a completion rate of 63-65 percent. It'll represent a decline, but at the same time, it'll be better than any Bills QB's season since 1991.
K-9 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I'm going to take a wild guess. I bet at the end of the season that Manning will have between 27-30 TD passes, 12-15 INTs, 3500 yards, and a completion rate of 63-65 percent. It'll represent a decline, but at the same time, it'll be better than any Bills QB's season since 1991. I admire the boldness of this prediction. He has four TD passes in his last six games. There are declines and then there is falling off a cliff. Given his previous rate of TD passes per game in his career, he is climbing Everest with banana peel shoes. GO BILLS
Fan in Chicago Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 hot take! Thanx. Said it after the 2013 season so not breaking news to me. He looked old and cold. He'll still have his games but he can't IMO carry a team. Yes it is not breaking news but at the end of last season, there was talk about him being possibly injured and he will recover over the off-season. Even though the trends were there for the better part of last season, he chose to continue his career. I am questioning his decision and wondering if a QB of his stature can ever be benched. Even though it may be the right football decision eventually, the fans may not want it. Interesting for sure. That would mean we better solve Tom Brady 'cuz he might be around for 3 or 4 more g#@@$#! years. True. Brady** is showing no signs or hints at retiring in the near future. Pats** will also have similar interesting decisions in a couple of years - play Brady** till he can not stand any more or bring on the future. I'm going to take a wild guess. I bet at the end of the season that Manning will have between 27-30 TD passes, 12-15 INTs, 3500 yards, and a completion rate of 63-65 percent. It'll represent a decline, but at the same time, it'll be better than any Bills QB's season since 1991. Sounds quite wild and I doubt he can do it, but we will see. At this point, it seems like he may have enough to trump the lower level teams but will have a lot of difficulty against a half-way decent defense or if the game is a shootout.
TheFunPolice Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Honestly I am worried now. I am a HUGE Manning fan. Love the guy and everything he has done and stands for. In 2013 he set single season NFL records as a passer. In 2014 he was on a very good pace early on then it all fell apart seemingly overnight. I was hoping it was an injury that healed up. However, I'm worried. I will say this though: that Denver/Baltimore game was a defensive slug fest without a single TD on offense for either team. Flacco looked even worse than Manning, so it might be that the defenses were just THAT good. I've never seen Flacco unable to complete anything over 5 yards. His calling card has always been the deep pass and it was not there. This KC game will be interesting. Arrowhead (where even Brady* looked like crap last season) is a tough place to play, and that Chiefs D is nasty. We'll see if Manning looks better.
ThurmasThoman Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 There are many repercussions to Tom Brady and the New England Patriots organizationally sanctioned cheating, but I think the people who have suffered the most (outside of bills fans ) are Tom's fellow quarterbacks, both in and out of conference. Tom Brady and the Patriots basically set the bar for a "good season" at 18-0, record breaking offensive statistics, and at a minimum, a Super Bowl appearance--but a win should be expected. This has most impacted 3 quarterbacks: Roethlisberger, and the Manning brothers. Both Eli and Ben have won 2 (two!) Super Bowls, but you would think they are "average" quarterbacks. Peyton has won 1, and is still sitting pretty after a great win over Baltimore opening weekend. Now, with all that being said, do I think Peyton is at the end of the road? Of course. And his stats will be down this year, he'll be less effective, etc. But, at the end of the day, Peyton can still win football games, and while it might not be pretty, it'll work. There are no quick solutions to quarterbacking--I shudder to think what this board will look like after TT has his first bad game against a good defense. Surely, there will be calls for his benching.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 There is the whole fusing his spine together thing. On that topic, I spoke with a friend who is a doctor and he talked about spinal fusion and how it's not a permanent fix and that it's degenerative. He said it would be hard for Peyton to have the surgery again on the same vertebrate in the future, and that what's fusing the spine (usually screws, metal plates, rods) will wear down the bone. Eventually he will have limited mobility in his neck, especially turning from side to side. It was a depressing conversation.
dave mcbride Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I admire the boldness of this prediction. He has four TD passes in his last six games. There are declines and then there is falling off a cliff. Given his previous rate of TD passes per game in his career, he is climbing Everest with banana peel shoes. GO BILLS He was hurt pretty badly in the last couple of games last year, and he did in fact make some good throws against Baltimore. Let's put it this way: he didn't look stellar against a good Baltimore defense, but he did look better than he did the last couple of games last season (after his leg injury late in the season vs. SD). I wouldn't write his epitaph quite yet.
K-9 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 He was hurt pretty badly in the last couple of games last year, and he did in fact make some good throws against Baltimore. Let's put it this way: he didn't look stellar against a good Baltimore defense, but he did look better than he did the last couple of games last season (after his leg injury late in the season vs. SD). I wouldn't write his epitaph quite yet. I really would like to believe all this as I hate seeing all time greats in any sport stay too long. And I agree that his thigh injury impacted his performance at the end of last season. But he had all offseason to rehab, etc. and he just hasn't looked right. From OTAs to camp and preseason games, he is just not spinning the ball like before. I think he is dealing with nerve issues. I seem that recall he said he still has numbness in his fingers for instance. I'll be rooting for him and I hope you are right. GO BILLS!!!
NoSaint Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I really would like to believe all this as I hate seeing all time greats in any sport stay too long. And I agree that his thigh injury impacted his performance at the end of last season. But he had all offseason to rehab, etc. and he just hasn't looked right. From OTAs to camp and preseason games, he is just not spinning the ball like before. I think he is dealing with nerve issues. I seem that recall he said he still has numbness in his fingers for instance. I'll be rooting for him and I hope you are right. GO BILLS!!! if i recall he commented he hasnt had feeling in his fingers in years. we will see. it could be he didnt heal up right. couldve been a bad day. its tricky to string last years run into sunday. might be a trend, and makes sense if it is.... but he could get hot in a week.
TheFunPolice Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 He had numbness in his fingers when he set new NFL single season records for passing TDs and YDS two seasons ago as well. I think he is undoubtedly going to be less dangerous than he was, but if Denver can figure out how to get an OL that can block he might just get one more crack at a ring, albeit this time with defense and a running game leading the way. What's funny is that you KNOW people will say "well, the team carried him" as if Brady didn't have a team and a coach around him too. If Seattle scores from the 1 yard line Brady is 3-3 in the big game. A DB intercepts a pass and somehow Brady becomes more clutch. Sports....
K-9 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 if i recall he commented he hasnt had feeling in his fingers in years. we will see. it could be he didnt heal up right. couldve been a bad day. its tricky to string last years run into sunday. might be a trend, and makes sense if it is.... but he could get hot in a week. Again, I hope you and others are right. If anyone can do more with less arm strength, it's Manning. But he really looks like he is struggling out there. Hope he turns it around. GO BILLS!!!
TheFunPolice Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I read the Broncos forums quite a bit during the week and all they do is whine and complain about Manning and cry for Brock Osweiller. IF the Bills don't go to the Super Bowl hopefully it's the Broncos who do and Manning retires with one more ring and those idiots can see what having Brock as their starting QB looks like. It's pathetic. They WON yesterday against a very good Ravens team. One thing I DID like over there though. One poster said "imagine if we faced New England, Seattle, Arizona, or Buffalo with that offensive performance.." People are taking notice!
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Honestly I am worried now. I am a HUGE Manning fan. Love the guy and everything he has done and stands for. In 2013 he set single season NFL records as a passer. In 2014 he was on a very good pace early on then it all fell apart seemingly overnight. I was hoping it was an injury that healed up. However, I'm worried. I will say this though: that Denver/Baltimore game was a defensive slug fest without a single TD on offense for either team. Flacco looked even worse than Manning, so it might be that the defenses were just THAT good. I've never seen Flacco unable to complete anything over 5 yards. His calling card has always been the deep pass and it was not there. This KC game will be interesting. Arrowhead (where even Brady* looked like crap last season) is a tough place to play, and that Chiefs D is nasty. We'll see if Manning looks better. Good point about the defense, I think we all need to see a larger sample size from Manning this season before we rush to judgements. Although we might have plenty of evidence to support his decline. You never know until you see him play enough. Last year was last year, this one might be different. As far as Flacco goes I don't attribute too much to Denver's defense, though they do have talent. I think this could be a brutal year for Flacco. Steve Smith ( in his final NFL season) Kamar Aiken, and Marlon Brown. I think that says it all. Edited September 15, 2015 by DriveFor1Outta5
metzelaars_lives Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I coulda told you this after seeing him play in the preseason. The Peyton Manning we saw at the end of last season is who he is now.
Shamrock Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Can we suit Greg Lloyd up for 1 game this week?
BUFFALOKIE Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 The next scandalous revelation will be "Over-Inflate-Gate", with Manning adding air to balls so they will go farther and faster. Wasn't it both Manning and Brady that wanted QB's to have their own balls? Hmmm... Helium. Is there any rule specifying what particular gaseous mixture with which the balls are inflated?
billsfan_34 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I agree with the OP. Its time for him to retire. He has no arm strength at all.
....lybob Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 fifty Omaha said hut losing feeling in my toes nothing beats that new car smell Chicken parm tastes so good Peyton can't throw no more
Rico Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 fifty Omaha said hut losing feeling in my toes nothing beats that new car smell Chicken parm tastes so good Peyton can't throw no more "I love choking in big games" Here's to him putting up another epic fail in his last-ever game this January at the Ralph.
Best Player Available Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 he seemed to be sliding down the cliff late last year. i see a SNL or two in his future but that's about it.
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