Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 I feel like there's, perhaps, some middle outcome between winning and targeting Sammy and getting intercepted I love the win, but hate the "if you question anything it would've been a loss" attitude sometimes I agree. And I wasn't thrilled with all of the clear-out patterns Sammy was running. We saw that last year. Get the guy the ball near the LOS and let him do his thing. You have a playmaker like that - use him.
Malazan Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Yes, see how forcing the ball to TY Hilton worked out for the Colts? It's "obvious" the Bills should have done that.
Fixxxer Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Two targets from what I remember. Sammy will have a good day next week because NE has no Vontae Davis caliber CB. I agree, but it shouldn't matter with a player like Sammy. I'm not saying that we need to force the ball to him but he can't be so invisible like he was today.
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Great game by our team and happy with the win. With that said as an OC you should go into a game trying to get the ball into the hands of your best players, regardless of matchup. Watkins was used as a decoy and garded by Davis the whole game, but its simply unacceptable to not even look his way. Maybe he wasn't open..
LeGOATski Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Sammy wasn't a playmaker today. Maybe he's just not as good as the other guys yet. Yep. That's the conclusion we should come to... Maybe he wasn't open.. He was open for the TD late in the game. Just overthrown. Edited September 13, 2015 by LeGOATski
Wayne Cubed Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Knew a thread like this would pop up. Lots of play makers on offense, hard to get them all the ball. Also, V. Davis was one of the best CB in the NFL last year. Also, the point of the game is to win
Kelly the Dog Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 This team is most lethal when the QB is noticing the mismatches and going to one of our highly skilled players against an opponent not as highly skilled, The Colts had one great CB who shadowed Watkins. It's only a problem if the offense is not working to not go to your playmakers. Other teams don't have the luxury of that shutdown corner. I wasn't concerned at all about Sammy.
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 That said...ln one of those targets TT forced it into Watkins in double coverage and it was almost picked. Watkins was taking double coverage and other guys were open.
Beef Jerky Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 I feel like there's, perhaps, some middle outcome between winning and targeting Sammy and getting intercepted I love the win, but hate the "if you question anything it would've been a loss" attitude sometimes I never said that or had that attitude.
NoSaint Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) This team is most lethal when the QB is noticing the mismatches and going to one of our highly skilled players against an opponent not as highly skilled, The Colts had one great CB who shadowed Watkins. It's only a problem if the offense is not working to not go to your playmakers. Other teams don't have the luxury of that shutdown corner. I wasn't concerned at all about Sammy.Mixed feelings. I'd be curious how many calls were designed for him as a primary read. Even against a top corner he should get plenty of calls to him. If they fall on plays where he's blanketed, so be it, look to 2- but he should be a focus even against top competition. I suspect he will be over the long haul though. And we knew with 4-5 guys needing touches in the passing games that week to week who gets the most targets should rotate. At least he was losing targets to Percy, and clay- not lee smith and hogan. Edited September 13, 2015 by NoSaint
MDH Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 This team is most lethal when the QB is noticing the mismatches and going to one of our highly skilled players against an opponent not as highly skilled, The Colts had one great CB who shadowed Watkins. It's only a problem if the offense is not working to not go to your playmakers. Other teams don't have the luxury of that shutdown corner. I wasn't concerned at all about Sammy. Yep. To top it off I'll take Sammy having zero receptions all year if it means 16-0! Even against a top corner he should get plenty of calls to him. If they fall on plays where he's blanketed, so be it, look to 2- but he should be a focus even against top competition. Vontae is one of the best corners in the league. Right up there with Sherman and Revis. I'm not too concerned that they game planned away from him and let other guys make plays. They could have kept trying to throw in his direction like Luck did vs. Gilmore only to get pass after pass batted down and two completions slipped in.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Mixed feelings. I'd be curious how many calls were designed for him as a primary read. Even against a top corner he should get plenty of calls to him. If they fall on plays where he's blanketed, so be it, look to 2- but he should be a focus even against top competition. I suspect he will be over the long haul though. And we knew with 4-5 guys needing touches in the passing games that week to week who gets the most targets should rotate. At least he was losing targets to Percy, and clay- not lee smith and hogan. It's way different if the offense is not working. But it was.
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Yep. To top it off I'll take Sammy having zero receptions all year if it means 16-0! Vontae is one of the best corners in the league. Right up there with Sherman and Revis. I'm not too concerned that they game planned away from him and let other guys make plays. They could have kept trying to throw in his direction like Luck did vs. Gilmore only to get pass after pass batted down and two completions slipped in. Yes the object of the game is to win.......Sammy is gonna get his this year its coming
Acantha Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 I feel like there's, perhaps, some middle outcome between winning and targeting Sammy and getting intercepted I love the win, but hate the "if you question anything it would've been a loss" attitude sometimes Amen. IMO, the best time to discuss weaknesses in the game is after a win; it's a lot less whining at that point and just good football discussion. But not around here. Watkins was my #1 fantasy WR. Really?? There are way too many weapons on this team for Watkins to be a WR1 in fantasy points.
TheFunPolice Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 He'll get his... Harvin will draw some attention in future weeks. It's a team game.
DC Greg Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 He was mainly a diversion today. That's OK. He needs to keep his head straight and just continue to be a great team player. His targets are coming. He will have multiple 100 yard, 2 TD games this year. Take that to the bank.
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 1 win. That's all that matters
Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 It's way different if the offense is not working. But it was. Was it? I couldn't tell from the flow of the game, I kind of got lost in it, but looking back I'm not sure how efficient they were? Didn't seem like we were rolling up first downs as much as I wanted but maybe I just missed it somehow.
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 If they can win without targeting him much, he is much more likely to survive to the playoffs...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 I agree, but it shouldn't matter with a player like Sammy. I'm not saying that we need to force the ball to him but he can't be so invisible like he was today. He could have easily had a TD catch today if TT hadn't overthrown him. In the over all scheme of things it doesn't matter in this convincing win. IMO of course.
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