\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 2002 - Putnam County, NY puts up small monument in park as a memorial to the 8 county residents that were killed in 9/11. The monument also includes a small piece of steel from the World Trade Center. Google Street View 2015 - State Department of Transportation replaces the traffic signal at the intersection, and decides to place the new traffic signal pole inside the park (land that they do not own) and 6 inches away from the monument, and tears up all the grass and brick walls around the monument: http://www.lohud.com/story/news/2015/09/10/traffic-light-carmel-sept-11th-memorial/71978132/
B-Man Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 here’s a passage from Lee Harris’s Civilization And Its Enemies. Forgetfulness occurs when those who have been long inured to civilized order can no longer remember a time in which they had to wonder whether their crops would grow to maturity without being stolen or their children sold into slavery by a victorious foe. … They forget that in time of danger, in the face of the Enemy, they must trust and confide in each other, or perish. They forget, in short, that there has ever been a category of human experience called the Enemy. And that, before 9/11, was what had happened to us. The very concept of the Enemy had been banished from our moral and political vocabulary. An enemy was just a friend we hadn’t done enough for — yet. Or perhaps there had been a misunderstanding, or an oversight on our part — something that we could correct. And this means that that our first task is that we must try to grasp what the concept of the Enemy really means. The Enemy is someone who is willing to die in order to kill you. And while it is true that the Enemy always hates us for a reason — it is his reason, and not ours. .
Azalin Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 What a shame. How would this have worked out if the monument in question had instead been dedicated to Martin Luther King?
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Wow... This is so crazy. Now if that light pole contained a redlight camera... I think the project would float?
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I thought they tore away @ the monument. It was 6 inches away... Looks like more in the photo... The grass I suppose would get replanted and the brick walls have nothing to do with monument which they didn't touch. The horror! Not that I am against the monument, which I am not. I don't understand what people are upset about? That the light is too close? I mean, it isn't like they disrespected the monument, or did they? Progress still has to go on. Where would the light go? I don't think it was anything to do w/"how quickly they forget" more so than people have to complain about every little thing. I envisoned light poles there and everything fixed up. What's the problem... It actually sheds light on the monument. It makes good news that the big bad gov't is so callous... BUT are they really? Edited September 11, 2015 by ExiledInIllinois
KD in CA Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 What a shame. How would this have worked out if the monument in question had instead been dedicated to Martin Luther King? Stop lights are racist anyway. They turn red more often in black neighborhoods.
Azalin Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 I remember that. The Brits aren't famous for playing other countries' national anthems at Buckingham Palace. Seeing this after 14 years is just as moving to me now as it was then.
/dev/null Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 Stop lights are racist anyway. They turn red more often in black neighborhoods. Stop lights are inherently Racist® tools of White Privilege© intended solely to stop black people
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 Stop lights are inherently Racist® tools of White Privilege© intended solely to stop black people Double-whammy. Don't put the lights up and they speed right through and get killed! #BlackLivesMatter
truth on hold Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 heres a passage from Lee Harriss Civilization And Its Enemies. Forgetfulness occurs when those who have been long inured to civilized order can no longer remember a time in which they had to wonder whether their crops would grow to maturity without being stolen or their children sold into slavery by a victorious foe. They forget that in time of danger, in the face of the Enemy, they must trust and confide in each other, or perish. They forget, in short, that there has ever been a category of human experience called the Enemy. And that, before 9/11, was what had happened to us. The very concept of the Enemy had been banished from our moral and political vocabulary. An enemy was just a friend we hadnt done enough for yet. Or perhaps there had been a misunderstanding, or an oversight on our part something that we could correct. And this means that that our first task is that we must try to grasp what the concept of the Enemy really means. The Enemy is someone who is willing to die in order to kill you. And while it is true that the Enemy always hates us for a reason it is his reason, and not ours. . Horrible thinking divoricing our policies and actions from responsibility. That is your deal though....always about "them" and not us. Unless of course we're not bombing "them" enough
3rdnlng Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Horrible thinking divoricing our policies and actions from responsibility. That is your deal though....always about "them" and not us. Unless of course we're not bombing "them" enough Are you Al Qaeda, because you certainly sound like one of them. Sure, we're responsible for a certain percentage of Islamic phucks intent on our destruction or subjugation because we don't worship like them. Your act is old and tiresome and seems a lot like crusading to me.
keepthefaith Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Horrible thinking divoricing our policies and actions from responsibility. That is your deal though....always about "them" and not us. Unless of course we're not bombing "them" enough So how was it leading up to 9/11 that we provoked such an attack?
DC Tom Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 So how was it leading up to 9/11 that we provoked such an attack? By defending Saudi Arabia from Iraq. Duh.
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Stop lights are inherently Racist® tools of White Privilege© intended solely to stop black people If we really wanted to end racism, we would call them "go darks," rather than "stop lights."
/dev/null Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 If we really wanted to end racism, we would call them "go darks," rather than "stop lights." You have checked my privilege and I acknowledge my Micro-Aggression
B-Man Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 QUESTION ASKED: The Forgetting of 9/11: How did this coordinated mass murder become so irrelevant? Muslim alienation and fear inside the U.S. has become the perennial 9/11 story, not the 3,000 Americans who were murdered and the costs associated with the attacks that have mounted into the trillions of dollars. So breathless are they to tell this tale that they produce news stories in which they have to admit that the lead item was not classified as a hate crime by the FBI. Overlook that fact, we are told, and focus instead on the words of the director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a radical group which has had demonstrable ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood: “9/11 is always a particularly difficult day.” In these stories, there is never any effort made to consider how much more difficult the anniversary might be for the many Americans who lost loved ones on that day. By contrast, look for commemoration of, for example, the heroic deeds of the passengers of United Flight 93, who overwhelmed the terrorists who hijacked their plane and prevented the completion of their dreadful mission. When you do find such stories in the mainstream media, they’ll inevitably be spun in a direction consonant with Woke politics. 9/11 has already reached a space of collective oblivion that it took Pearl Harbor many more decades to reach. This is because the force that ultimately pushed both of these hallowed days of our civil religion into the twisted narratives of the America-hating Woke elite is the same: the fracturing of our culture into two irreconcilable sides, and the vast and rapid increase of the cultural reach of those who want all narratives of traditional American heroism and national identity to disappear. Read the whole thing. https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-forgetting-of-9-11/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-cost-of-9-11-in-dollars/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/muslim-americans-reported-hate-incidents-nationwide-9-11-anniversary-n1279282
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