dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Most of them looked open because nobody was covering them, or it was an ILB covering Gronk/Chandler I'm sticking with my argument that Brady is freaking good.
Utah John Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 When the Bills QBs all looked all-pro against the Steelers in their preseason games, I figured the Steelers were just evaluating talent, playing ultra-vanilla formations, and not really trying hard. They didn't look any better last night. Brady looked great but I can't recall any difficult throws -- it was 7-11 all over the field. I remember Bills teams that could score a zillion and still find ways to lose, and this Steelers team looks like that. The Pats are just better coached. And what happened to Dick LeBeau? Did he bail because he saw a disaster on the horizon, or was he fired? Hard to believe the Steelers wouldn't keep the greatest D coordinator of all time. The Pats mind games continue. I suspect they knew they could outscore the Steelers and didn't do everything in their own defensive bag of tricks, just to avoid showing their hand to Buffalo. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Steelers do not have the defense to play press on the Pats*. They gave cushion everywhere and it blew up again and again. They got no pressure or pass rush - they were able to get the Brady when they blitzed, but they couldn't blitz enough because they don't have the personnel in secondary to handle that. Otherwise I thought they played the better game offensively and beat themselves on the trick play, penalties, missed FGs, and the stupid foot out of bounds by DHB. When the Bills QBs all looked all-pro against the Steelers in their preseason games, I figured the Steelers were just evaluating talent, playing ultra-vanilla formations, and not really trying hard. They didn't look any better last night. Brady looked great but I can't recall any difficult throws -- it was 7-11 all over the field. I remember Bills teams that could score a zillion and still find ways to lose, and this Steelers team looks like that. The Pats are just better coached. And what happened to Dick LeBeau? Did he bail because he saw a disaster on the horizon, or was he fired? Hard to believe the Steelers wouldn't keep the greatest D coordinator of all time. The Pats mind games continue. I suspect they knew they could outscore the Steelers and didn't do everything in their own defensive bag of tricks, just to avoid showing their hand to Buffalo. Maybe I'm just paranoid. publically it was a mutual decision to move on with LeBeau. However I believe it was not his decision, personally.
Alaska Darin Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I've never understood why teams don't give the Patriots the "Patriots Way" right back at them. Because the officials call penalties when other teams do it. Try holding receivers all over the field or pushing off the way the Pats receivers do. It's be like laundry day for a family of 5.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 They looked so open because he dissects defenses so quickly and can find the open guy almost all of the time. Also, if you throw it 32 times, you're gonna have some incompletions. He was great. He looked as good as ever. Sad but true. He was fantastic. Fans often have some insane idea that great quarterbacks are accurate on almost every pass. Great QBs miss several passes every game. Brady missed about three passes the entire night. He was phenomenal. Pitt D was awful though.
LeGOATski Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Steelers do not have the defense to play press on the Pats*. They gave cushion everywhere and it blew up again and again. They got no pressure or pass rush - they were able to get the Brady when they blitzed, but they couldn't blitz enough because they don't have the personnel in secondary to handle that. Otherwise I thought they played the better game offensively and beat themselves on the trick play, penalties, missed FGs, and the stupid foot out of bounds by DHB. And don't forget that horrible deep ball from Big Ben. That was very Fitz-esque. Blame it on the rain, I guess.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I'm sticking with my argument that Brady is freaking good. Oh, I'm not in any way saying Brady was bad. He found many of the busted coverages provided by the Pittsburgh D last night, and took what they gave him when it came to cushion. But make no mistake, they were open because of Pittsburgh's ineptitude. Brady just found them accurately and often.
mannc Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 He was fantastic. Fans often have some insane idea that great quarterbacks are accurate on almost every pass. Great QBs miss several passes every game. Brady missed about three passes the entire night. He was phenomenal. Pitt D was awful though.Aren't you glad we have the one coach who has consistently frustrated Brady and the Pats? It gives me confidence that Brady's days of effortlessly moving up and down the field against us are over, and it's one of the main reasons I was a big fan of hiring Rex.
sjjr Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 If the pats play the Bills the same way they played the Steelers last night, the Bills might run for 200 yds. They won't though, Belichek will have a different front dedicated to stopping the run for sure. The Patriots aren't near as talented as some of their recent teams, especially on D. This should be an interesting year in the AFC East.
Nanker Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 When the Bills QBs all looked all-pro against the Steelers in their preseason games, I figured the Steelers were just evaluating talent, playing ultra-vanilla formations, and not really trying hard. They didn't look any better last night. Brady looked great but I can't recall any difficult throws -- it was 7-11 all over the field. I remember Bills teams that could score a zillion and still find ways to lose, and this Steelers team looks like that. The Pats are just better coached. And what happened to Dick LeBeau? Did he bail because he saw a disaster on the horizon, or was he fired? Hard to believe the Steelers wouldn't keep the greatest D coordinator of all time. The Pats mind games continue. I suspect they knew they could outscore the Steelers and didn't do everything in their own defensive bag of tricks, just to avoid showing their hand to Buffalo. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Tomlin pushed him out in January after two down years. He signed on with the Titan about two weeks later.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Aren't you glad we have the one coach who has consistently frustrated Brady and the Pats? It gives me confidence that Brady's days of effortlessly moving up and down the field against us are over, and it's one of the main reasons I was a big fan of hiring Rex. It really should be a fascinating game to watch, especially if the Bills win this week.
RyanC883 Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Watching the Steelers last night reminded me A LOT of the Jauron-era Bills. No fire, soft defense, bad mistakes, horrible clock management... I didn't see anything from the Patriots*** that looked "great". Much more of the Steelers shooting themselves in the foot. Gronk is hard enough to stop when you actually put a guy or two on him. Leaving him completely uncovered, multiple times, is a recipe for a big loss. The key will be doing whatever it takes to stop Gronk and Edleman, and let them try to beat us with Chandler and Amendola. The ultimate solution is getting to Brady early and often. Can't wait to face them next week, but Colts first! horribly coached game by the Steelers. not calling TO when you have a barley made the team ILB covering Gronk one on one is inexcusable. Tomlin is average at best, and the new DC is a terrible-crony hire. Plus, the players they have on D are undersized and soft for the most part. When a 38 year old LB is your best player and emotional leader, you have issues. The secondary for the Steelers had no idea where to line-up all game. Really hard to watch that college-level of ineptness. Tomlin pushed him out in January after two down years. He signed on with the Titan about two weeks later. The Steelers FO pushed him out because the Rooney's, being the NFL "gods" that they are, simply couldn't loose Butler, the new DC, who looked so freaking great last night. haha. The Steelers have made a number of dumb moves over the past 5 years or so that are coming to haunt them now. W/o Big Ben this is a 5 win team at most.
dave mcbride Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 It really should be a fascinating game to watch, especially if the Bills win this week. It'll be just as fascinating if they lose. The Bills really will want to avoid an 0-2 start (obviously).
TheFunPolice Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 It was truly amazing how disorganized and unprepared they were...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Take away Gronk and Edelman and make everyone else beat you. Their skill players are not good outside of those 2. If the ball is going to Amendola & Chandler we are in great shape. If you let Edelman catch 11 balls and Gronk 3 TDs it is going to be a long day. Let the ball go to the guys that cant hurt you.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 It'll be just as fascinating if they lose. The Bills really will want to avoid an 0-2 start (obviously). Important and still fascinating, sure. But if the Bills win this week, then the game will be a true statement should they beat the Pats as well and somewhat announce their arrival as a serious contender for the division.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I hope this is OK not to bury at the end of a long in-game thread which has already degraded to arguments? 1) how can a team have a QB throw 68% completions on 38 attempts for 351 yds, gain 134 yds rushing, dominate the TOP by 4 minutes, and yet look so completely inept on offense? 2) I hope folks will remember this game if we're tempted to rag on our young QB. Roethlisberger is a genuinely good, maybe great, QB, and he misfired a few times tonight. The TD pass where the receiver slid out of bounds as he caught the ball is one example - anyone else notice that he had to drop low to pull it in? The INT was just bad. Good QB make bad plays sometimes. 3) That strip fumble was a thing of beauty. The Pittsburgh D missed such a game-changing opportunity there. 4) Is it true that no one can cover Gronk, or was the PIttsburgh 2ndary just messed up and the announcers ball-washing Gronk and the Patsies***? Edit: must mention ....5) Best play of the game: safety blitz on Brady. I literally screamed like Fitzy 6) I hate the Pats***. I do so most sincerely hate them. 7) GO BILLS! Scott Chandler the new Hernandez
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 A. Williams and C. Graham are safeties with decent CB skills. They can run with Gronk. They can match-up with him. Rex will play three safeties and try to confuse Brady with different coverage looks. The linebackers need to stay with the RB's out of the backfield. Need to stop the run with the three safety nickel package. Dareus' return and the LB's are the key. They can run with him but absolutely cannot match up with him size-wise.
BobChalmers Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) If Pittsburgh can have a game this close, we will destroy NE. NE has too many weaknesses. This game was two bad teams beating up on each other. NE came out on top. So what! I'd say that was a good team beating a mediocre team. Both are flawed - Steelers more so than Pats. Pitt D is putrid. NE D is just mediocre. It was truly amazing how disorganized and unprepared they were... Losing LeBeau is a disaster for them. Leaving Gronk uncovered is sad, going out there with only 10 players was pathetic. Edited September 11, 2015 by BobChalmers
Dan Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 It seems to me, you absolutely have to jam their receivers at the line. Their entire passing offense relies on timing and pick routes. They've mastered the pick route! That's why so many guys seem wide open. Disrupt their picks, make that cheater hestitate and you have a chance.
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