CodeMonkey Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Buffalo Bills 2014 Record: 9-7 | 2015 Proj. W: 8.0 | Playoff Odds: 33.1%Off. Rank: 24th | Def. Rank: 2nd | S.T. Rank: 18th http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tom-brady-and-the-patriots-take-on-the-dolphins-bills-and-jets/ Has them ranked 3rd in the AFCE only ahead of the Jests. Let the hate begin! Edited September 10, 2015 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Everyone has consistently put us behind the Pats and Dolphins, and generally in the middle of the pack in the league. At this point I have no hate to put out. The Bills need to have more consistent success on the field before we deserve respect with these predictions. Edited September 10, 2015 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The pundits are correct until the Bills finally prove them wrong. Until then, no reason to get all worked up over predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Pretty good analysis; I can't argue, although I hope Taylor ends up better than they predict. What's interesting to me is what they say about the Jets the last 3 seasons. Basically, they were a 5 win team each season but got lucky in close games in 2013. That rings true to me. Rex was the coach of all of those teams, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 This is fair. Their offense was terrible last year. I think it will be improved but let's see what happens. The Greg Roman factor is only cared about by Bills fans. Most analysis ignores the fact that the Bills had college coaching on the offense last year. Rather be the underdog anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I simply don't understand all the love Miami is getting. Melvin !@#$ing Shepphard is their !@#$ing MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I simply don't understand all the love Miami is getting. Melvin !@#$ing Shepphard is their !@#$ing MLB. Everything I read seems to be about the Bills QB, or lack thereof, and Rex. Nothing to do with MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I think many of the pundits have the same concerns that I have, essentially it boils down to show me the baby. We have a new coaching staff, new systems, and new players across the board on offense. Additionally, most all of them have missed almost the entire preseason. So, there's little to no evidence that any of it can come together in the first half of the season, let alone game 1, and make for a winning record. Now, as a Bills fan, I'm eternally optimistic and trash talking more than ever with my Dolphin friend. But, realistically, not many teams historically have put this many new pieces together and had them gel into winning games immediately. Can our Bills do it? Absolutely! Will they? We'll know come November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The pundits are correct until the Bills finally prove them wrong. Until then, no reason to get all worked up over predictions. What good are predictions if they are wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Everything I read seems to be about the Bills QB, or lack thereof, and Rex. Nothing to do with M I simply don't understand all the love Miami is getting. Melvin !@#$ing Shepphard is their !@#$ing MLB. It's Suh-Suh-Suhdio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I simply don't understand all the love Miami is getting. Melvin !@#$ing Shepphard is their !@#$ing MLB. I forget who it was but someone was on ESPN radio the other day picking Miami to do well and saying they had really good linebackers..... Let the Dolphins have the "Offseason Champion" title and let more hate continue to be dumped on guys like Tyrod and Shady, if these guys really knew what they were talking about they'd be cranking out millions in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Suh was a good add for the Dolphins no doubt. I look at pretty much everything else they did as an even exchange. Added Stills/Jennings/Cameron, but lost Hartline/Wallace/Clay. Added Mosley, but lost Starks and Odrick. So they were 8-8 last season with what they had. Does Suh really put them in a position to win 11 or more? I have my doubts.By contrast, the Bills have upgraded their offensive line, running backs, wide receivers, tight end, two fullbacks and basically kept the same guys they had on defense. Now we're taking a 9-7 team from last year (arguably one that would have been 8-8 if the Patriots needed that last game) and saying that they're just an 8-8 or 9-7 team this year. I'm fine with that if they would just come out in their "analysis" with that type of perspective. You effectively have to say that compared to Orton, that Tyrod will be a steaming pile of garbage. I also have my doubts about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It's hard for me to fault people for being skeptical about the Bills being strong this year. Look at it from their point of view. -New coach who has averaged 6 wins per season over the past three years. -New offensive coordinator. -New, untested quarterback with uninspiring back-ups. -Two new starters on an offensive line that failed miserably last year and must be trusted to anchor the ground and pound approach Rex has staked out. -A revamped running back corps that was plagued with injuries and missed much of the preseason must execute ground and pound. -The learning curve that naturally comes with a new (and complex) offensive system. I personally am optimistic, but I'm also a homer. It's hard for me to fault others who are neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 What good are predictions if they are wrong? They can make you feel good if they predict your team will be good and go to the playoffs, even if it isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dolphins are good on O with a up and coming young QB. They added Suh to an already pretty good DLine, making them one of the best units in the NFL. They are weak at LB and average in secondary, with Grimes being the only really great player they have in the back 7. But most think their defensive line will make up for that. Basically, Miami is looked at having a good offense and a good defense with a good young QB. And they have suspect coaching. The Bills are looked at having a great defense, an average to below average offense with a huge question mark at QB and a coach most people think is OK. The dolphins are much more balanced of a team and hence a safer choice to be better. The Bills probably have a higher ceiling if things break right, but have a distinct possibility of flaming out if the QB sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dolphins are good on O with a up and coming young QB. They added Suh to an already pretty good DLine, making them one of the best units in the NFL. They are weak at LB and average in secondary, with Grimes being the only really great player they have in the back 7. But most think their defensive line will make up for that. Basically, Miami is looked at having a good offense and a good defense with a good young QB. And they have suspect coaching. The Bills are looked at having a great defense, an average to below average offense with a huge question mark at QB and a coach most people think is OK. The dolphins are much more balanced of a team and hence a safer choice to be better. The Bills probably have a higher ceiling if things break right, but have a distinct possibility of flaming out if the QB sucks. How on earth are the Bills below average on offense with the players we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I simply don't understand all the love Miami is getting. Melvin !@#$ing Shepphard is their !@#$ing MLB. Not to be confused with Kelvin Sheppard, who has cable and not directv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 How on earth are the Bills below average on offense with the players we have? Suspect line, last ranked QB by some if not most, no ground and pound run game, Shady may not be 100% at the start. I personally see average not below average. But I'm a Bills fan. I think the bottom line though is QB. Rightly or wrongly, if you have one you are good, if you don't you suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Not to be confused with Kelvin Sheppard, who has cable and not directv. Ha, thanks. No joke, Melvin Sheppard was a cross-eyed kid I went to middle school with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) FYI. They just posted their ELO predictions for Week 1 and the season. Buffalo is favored to beat Indy. Predicted at 9 wins on the season. 44% playoff chance and 20% chance to win division. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2015-nfl-predictions/ those are higher percentages than Miami and Jets. Edited September 10, 2015 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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