26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 @WHAM1180 The #Bills over/under for wins in 8.5 #Wham1180 .@BMatthewsSports takes a look at that in today's column --> http://bit.ly/1EOGoGO
KD in CA Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I know nobody wants to consider they could be worse than last year's 9-7, but the division is tougher this year and things can go sideways (QB blow up, key injuries, etc) and this line reflects the risk of some of those things happening.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 I know nobody wants to consider they could be worse than last year's 9-7, but the division is tougher this year and things can go sideways (QB blow up, key injuries, etc) and this line reflects the risk of some of those things happening. The Patriots look like a worse team to me. Especially on defense.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 what are the odds? I'll lay $50 on the over Kurt Warner's bold prediction - All AFCE teams will finish better than 8-8
KD in CA Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 The Patriots look like a worse team to me. Especially on defense. The secondary is worse but they scheme pass coverage very well. Plus they get Mayo back. Hate to say it but they'll be fine; 12+ wins as usual. Bills will need at least 10 for a WC.
bobobonators Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 what are the odds? I'll lay $50 on the over Kurt Warner's bold prediction - All AFCE teams will finish better than 8-8 Lol. Did he really? Did he have a straight face. He may be off the wagon.
bobobonators Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Has it ever even happened? Where all 4 teams are better than 8-8 within same division? Ive gone back to 2008 and its happened several times where 3 teams are better than 8-8. In 2008 the nfc east and nfc south had all 4 teams 8-8 or better but not 9-7 or better. I just went back all the way to 2000 and its never happened where all teams are better than 8-8 within the division.
r00tabaga Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 If Vegas says 8.5 and they're experts, then what is Pete Prisco?
Saxum Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 If Vegas says 8.5 and they're experts, then what is Pete Prisco? Trump's hotel in Atlantic City
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 @WHAM1180 The #Bills over/under for wins in 8.5 #Wham1180 .@BMatthewsSports takes a look at that in today's column --> http://bit.ly/1EOGoGO if we go 8-8 I'll puke, I want either boom or bust
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) I did say "All AFCE teams will finish better than 8-8". I'll say 8-8 is close enough. It is technically not a losing season. One can argue it is a winning season. Has it ever even happened? Where all 4 teams are better than 8-8 within same division? Ive gone back to 2008 and its happened several times where 3 teams are better than 8-8. In 2008 the nfc east and nfc south had all 4 teams 8-8 or better but not 9-7 or better.I just went back all the way to 2000 and its never happened where all teams are better than 8-8 within the division. NFCE, NFCS - * AFCE the Bills missed w/ 7-9 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2008/ NFCE & AFCS http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2007/ AFCE & AFCW http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/ Edited September 10, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
bobobonators Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I did say "All AFCE teams will finish better than 8-8". I'll say 8-8 is close enough. It is technically not a losing season. One can argue it is a winning season. NFCE, NFCS - * AFCE the Bills missed w/ 7-9 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2008/ NFCE & AFCS http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2007/ AFCE & AFCW http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/ No I'm not arguing with you at all, I was just curious if it ever had happened - all 4 teams going better than 8-8. But you said Kurt Warner said it, so I wanted to know did he really say it?
papazoid Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 for the first time in 10 years, i'm going OVER. I think tyrod is going to shock people.
billstein22 Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Well, we won 9 games last year, including the one against Garoppolo. I think we're going to be better and would take the over, but 8.5 seems like a perfectly reasonable O/U to me. I'm predicting 10-6, with a slow start (1-2) given the difficulty of our first three games.
Dr. Fong Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I know nobody wants to consider they could be worse than last year's 9-7, but the division is tougher this year and things can go sideways (QB blow up, key injuries, etc) and this line reflects the risk of some of those things happening. True, and I've been wrestling with my expectations for this season. But let me ask you this, do you think the team as it stands today is better than it was last year? Because I do, but I'm not sure if that's just my slanted perception or reality. I guess I'll find out soon enough.
The Poojer Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 On paper, the Jets are worse, the Pats are worse, Dolphins are better, Buffalo is better I know nobody wants to consider they could be worse than last year's 9-7, but the division is tougher this year and things can go sideways (QB blow up, key injuries, etc) and this line reflects the risk of some of those things happening.
Dorkington Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 I know nobody wants to consider they could be worse than last year's 9-7, but the division is tougher this year and things can go sideways (QB blow up, key injuries, etc) and this line reflects the risk of some of those things happening. Pats are the same-ish, maybe one win less. The Dolphins look to be improved. The Jets look to be greatly improved. The Bills should be improved as well. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.. I think this team is better than last year's team, but I could also see us going 8-8 or worse, just because schedule/injuries.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 On paper, the Jets are worse, the Pats are worse, Dolphins are better, Buffalo is better Really? I think the Jets are definitely better and the Dolphins got worse
KD in CA Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 True, and I've been wrestling with my expectations for this season. But let me ask you this, do you think the team as it stands today is better than it was last year? Because I do, but I'm not sure if that's just my slanted perception or reality. I guess I'll find out soon enough. On paper, absolutely. I think they did everything they could have to improve this off-season. But teams always play a lot of close games; they could have easily ended up 7-9 or 11-5 last year. So the potential for deviation based on a few very tight games that can turn on one or two plays always means potential for variation in record. Then factor in the big ? at QB, the always random injury factor, and improvement by Miami and NYJ and I think you again end up in that range where anything between 7 and 11 wins is a reasonable outlook. Of course the probability of all outcomes is not equal. I think there is a higher likelihood of 10+ wins than we've seen in a long time and the probability of 7 or fewer wins much lower. But I won't be shocked if it happens. On paper, the Jets are worse, the Pats are worse, Dolphins are better, Buffalo is better How are the Jets worse? They finally hired some WRs, signed a HOF CB and got the best player in the draft. Pats are the same-ish, maybe one win less. The Dolphins look to be improved. The Jets look to be greatly improved. The Bills should be improved as well. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.. I think this team is better than last year's team, but I could also see us going 8-8 or worse, just because schedule/injuries. Thanks for distilling that down for me!
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