dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm talking about the reporting, not the opinion stuff. Dunne is a good addition. It's a legitimately good reporting team now.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm talking about the reporting, not the opinion stuff. Dunne is a good addition. It's a legitimately good reporting team now. Limited to what I catch on the front page of TBD, but he seems fair and unbiased.
Lurker Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 not the opinion stuff. ...which is at an all-time low.
Chandler#81 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Shirley you jest. If Brooks, Sully & Carruci had their way with their 'insights', this team would look VERY different. To me, it's nearly become what I read, I go with the opposite and it's usually more accurate. It'll be interesting to see how they morph, should winning become a staple here.
hondo in seattle Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I thought it was interesting that TG took the flight with Freddy to Seattle in order to write a couple stories. Maybe competition with Dunne has inspired TG to work a little harder? Sully continues to be useless.
dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 Shirley you jest. If Brooks, Sully & Carruci had their way with their 'insights', this team would look VERY different. To me, it's nearly become what I read, I go with the opposite and it's usually more accurate. It'll be interesting to see how they morph, should winning become a staple here. Read what I wrote: "not the opinion stuff." Reporting.
eball Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I agree, Dave, particularly with respect to Ty Dunne who has been a refreshing addition. I read his articles and not much else from that paper. Despite my distaste for Graham personally I do read his human interest articles because they are generally well-written and cover ground not widely reported.
ko12010 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Read what I wrote: "not the opinion stuff." Reporting. Their 'reporting' is infused unprofessionally with their opinions. It's rampant throughout all sports journalism now. I totally disagree with what you're going for here. I think their reporting, if you truly think it is separate from their opinions, is at an all time low.
dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 Their 'reporting' is infused unprofessionally with their opinions. It's rampant throughout all sports journalism now. I totally disagree with what you're going for here. I think their reporting, if you truly think it is separate from their opinions, is at an all time low. That's fine. I think you're wrong. I also think that it's ontologically impossible to report without an infusing one's opinion, so that doesn't bother me so much. And I don't think that reporters (not opinion writers) are all that different from reporters from the alleged golden age of the pre-internet era. I think that argument is overblown.
Wayne Cubed Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm talking about the reporting, not the opinion stuff. Dunne is a good addition. It's a legitimately good reporting team now. Agreed. His piece on Gilmore was very good.
vegas55 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Dunne makes all the difference in the world. He covered Packers, and actually developed personnel sources in the NFL which he uses to provide an independent, informed opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of various players, coaches etc. Contrast that with someone like Jerry Sullivan, who in all his years here has never developed one source in the NFL, but showers his readers with his opinions, which are not based on any real life football experience, not based on any film study, basically no better or worse than the average Joe pounding beers at a local tavern.
dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 Dunne makes all the difference in the world. He covered Packers, and actually developed personnel sources in the NFL which he uses to provide an independent, informed opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of various players, coaches etc. Contrast that with someone like Jerry Sullivan, who in all his years here has never developed one source in the NFL, but showers his readers with his opinions, which are not based on any real life football experience, not based on any film study, basically no better or worse than the average Joe pounding beers at a local tavern. To be fair, Sullivan is paid to be an opinion columnist, not a reporter. I don't like him, but reporting and opinion writing is apples and oranges.
eball Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 To be fair, Sullivan is paid to be an opinion columnist, not a reporter. I don't like him, but reporting and opinion writing is apples and oranges. I do appreciate that it's a bit of a challenge to write fresh columns regarding a franchise that has been in the tank 15 years and running, but Sullivan all too often takes the lazy, predictable route rather than coming up with something novel. Why would SiriusXM have Sullivan on to discuss the upcoming Bills season? I would think you want an actual beat reporter who has been closely following the goings on, not a jaded columnist. Anyway, sorry to get off track.
Stanley Lombardi Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Au contraire, IMHO: Sullivan is a miserable human being, Graham is a failed lefty novelist, Gleason is a non-entity, and Carucci is just mailing it in.Dunne and Skurski are readable.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I think in general it is much harder to report in the social media era. Everyone is an insider and you are not breaking any news that we didn't know immediately. as an example, if a player gets hurt for example we do not need to wait for an update from Vic Carucci (or whoever) you just follow the guy's wife on twitter and you may get the update. In order to be relevant you have to provide something that no one else does. I think that Dunne's profiles have been phenomenal. They are stories that we just haven't heard. That is really tough to do in the social media era. Edited September 9, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
Chandler#81 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Read what I wrote: "not the opinion stuff." Reporting. I stand by what I said. REPORTING from the sidelines in Training Camp. Bush League.
dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2015 Author Posted September 9, 2015 I stand by what I said. REPORTING from the sidelines in Training Camp. Bush League. What, specifically, did they get wrong? I certainly wouldn't say EJ because at the end of the day he is a 3rd string QB. Despite all of the happy talk, that's Gale Gilbert/Jeff Tuel territory.
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