Rico Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 It wasn't guaranteed he would be back, they had to outbid Houston. @viccarucci: Hearing #Bills offered a better deal to Matt Cassel than #Texans w bonus structure that could potentially recoup most of lost pay. The question now is, who is 2nd to Taylor on Sunday? Good question.
Rico Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1m1 minute ago Oh RT @buffalobills: Rex Ryan confirms the QB depth chart: QB 1: Tyrod Taylor QB 2: Matt Cassel QB 3: EJ Manuel Well there you go.
starrymessenger Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Great stuff. QB position group as a whole much better off with him than without. He can mentor the other two and he is serviceable to play if needed.
FireChan Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) It's called being so fully invested in your position to the point that you are too far gone to come back. This clown, among others here on this board, are so far down the "EJ will NEVER be a competent starting QB" road that they simply cannot return. Not enough fuel to get back. So on they plod. There are those in the media that are essentially in that very same same place. Tyler Dunne from the News continues to bang the drum as well. Did you know EJ actually threw a pass that bounced into a hospitality tent and also hit a camera man on the sideline with another?????? Heavens to Betsy, it's a twister, it's a twister Auntie Em!! Oh, and Lordy Lordy, he fumbled some shotgun snaps in practice!! Oh the humanity. I SAW some of the snaps he was getting from second and third string centers early on and they weren't pretty, but why let a little fact like that get in the way of a narrative that you have invested yourself deeply within. Matt Coller at GR is another one. The analytics boy wonder genius who believes numbers tell you everything you need to know about a guy, and they tell him that EJ cannot possibly improve enough to be good. So of course, the ONLY reason why EJ is still on the team, or worse yet, that he was actually kept in lieu of Cassel at second string is because Whaley is committed to keeping HIS guy. No other explanation for it, boy howdy. The only guy who was heavily invested in this narrative and yet had the huevos to give credit where credit was due was Joe B. And Sal C actually conceded that he was caught up in the group think that was going on out there at SJF as well, and was outright supportive of releasing Cassel. Human nature makes some people pathetically funny, because they just can't help themselves. #NeverForget Edited September 8, 2015 by FireChan
plenzmd1 Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Weird, I would have thought EJ number 2 to go in if TT hurt during game, Cassell starts next game. Seem abilities similar, so game plan more effective in game.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @viccarucci: Predictable move. #Bills were able to get Cassel back at a drastically reduced salary. Likely vet minium of about $900,000 w bonuses. Makes sense. We get vet insurance for 3.5 M less on the cap.
Rico Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 BuffaloBob, on 07 Sept 2015 - 1:04 PM, said: #NeverForget Like I said, it's too bad all his Mike Williams posts from 2002-2004 got lost in a crash, they were pure gold.
eball Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Weird, I would have thought EJ number 2 to go in if TT hurt during game, Cassell starts next game. Seem abilities similar, so game plan more effective in game. Yeah, that's my thinking as well. But what the hell do we know, Paul!
negativo Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Brace yourselves, people: Props to Whaley for handling the Cassel situation perfectly. Meh had too much to contribute as a veteran backup for us to just throw him away. Happy he was brought back at a proper salary for a backup. Well played.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I agree with the position that Cassel goes in as the number two on game days. And if Taylor goes down for any real length of time, unless Cassel lights it up, that EJ would later start the rest of the season. The team obviously was comfortable with EJ being the number two because they had no assurances whatsoever that Cassel would not take another offer. It's also possible he said he wanted to be #2 or he wouldn't sign and they gave it to him.
Nanker Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 The way I see it, if TT gets hurt during the game you bring in Cassel as the closer. If TT is out the next week you prepare EJ as the starter (unless Cassel lights it up). Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 1m1 minute ago Oh RT @buffalobills: Rex Ryan confirms the QB depth chart: QB 1: Tyrod Taylor QB 2: Matt Cassel QB 3: EJ Manuel Just like Chuck Wagon said in the post above yours. It makes sense, if TT goes down/out late in a game to bring in Cassel because his game plan is to sit on the ball. If TT went out early, I think they'd bring in EJ so they don't have to **** can the entire game plan. If TT goes out for an extended period of weeks, the coaches will have time to adjust.
The Wiz Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Weird, I would have thought EJ number 2 to go in if TT hurt during game, Cassell starts next game. Seem abilities similar, so game plan more effective in game. I see it possibly being the other way around. Cassel can come in if something happens to TT and EJ gets the go the following week (or they just roll with Cassel). Edited September 8, 2015 by The Wiz
Rico Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Weird, I would have thought EJ number 2 to go in if TT hurt during game, Cassell starts next game. Seem abilities similar, so game plan more effective in game. I'd rather see EJ at #2 too. Oh well, he'll still most likely be starting if TT gets hurt/demoted.
GunnerBill Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I agree with the position that Cassel goes in as the number two on game days. And if Taylor goes down for any real length of time, unless Cassel lights it up, that EJ would later start the rest of the season. The team obviously was comfortable with EJ being the number two because they had no assurances whatsoever that Cassel would not take another offer. It's also possible he said he wanted to be #2 or he wouldn't sign and they gave it to him. I think this is right. I am not a lover of this move I have to say.
FireChan Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Just like Chuck Wagon said in the post above yours. It makes sense, if TT goes down/out late in a game to bring in Cassel because his game plan is to sit on the ball. If TT went out early, I think they'd bring in EJ so they don't have to **** can the entire game plan. If TT goes out for an extended period of weeks, the coaches will have time to adjust. Yep. Cassel being an experienced vet makes him a better choice for an emergency no-notice start.
nucci Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 So predictable no one predicted it, not even Carucci. Carucci hasn't got one thing right all summer.
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