YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2015 Author Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) It's a gut feeling, this move does not inspire confidence. Shows lack of confidence in TT and EJM. I don't have much to say except lets start the season. Show us what you got, Bills. This from the guy whose role model is Kyle Orton... rex has been consistent in saying he was going to have 3 QBs on the roster. And he does. They never said EJ was the #2. We all assumed that when Cassel was released, but there were multiple national reporters who kept saying vets released Saturday are likely to be re-signed Tuesday. If it was the plan all along, I doubt behind closed doors EJ is surprised. I do not think they told EJ on Saturday-you are going to be the backup. Then 3 days later said - just kidding! Everything since Saturday was done for cap reasons and they never deviated from the original plan of 3 QBs. Did I miss where they named EJ the backup over the weekend? Honest question, I may have missed it. Edited September 8, 2015 by YoloinOhio
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Maybe we could send Seattle the sixth rounder we got along with Cassel from the Vikings, for our fourth and seventh, and get Fred Jackson back. The theory being we really wanted to keep Jackson but not at his salary, when we need cash for Dareus. So Jackson messed up Whaley's plan by getting signed, instead of becoming a cheaper version of himself, like Cassel did. So if Jackson is cheaper now, maybe we can afford him. Could be a good move with Shady not at 100%. Actually you can't. There are rules about trading for a player after you cut him during a season.
Big C Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 When Dareus gets back (53) who is cut , traded or goes to IR ? Vets on the roster season start , guaranteed full pay if cut ? Fluellen is the guy to go when Dareus returns.
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Depending on the team 5th through 7th. Hell, the Bills gave up a 7th for Cassel. There are still teams in need for a good QB. When RGIII is deemed unusable and Colt McCoy and the other guy suck in DC. Look for an EJ deal to happen. We gave up a 5th and a 7th
hondo in seattle Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I hate hate hate this move! TT will now have an even shorter leash and will be looking over his shoulder all season worried he's going to get yanked. EJ is now nothing but a scout team QB. Another wasted year for him too. Maybe you're right, but I don't think this makes TT's leash shorter. And if he's looking over his shoulder, he's an idiot. He needs to work on his game and let the coaches worry about coaching decisions. I think this may actually be beneficial to TT, having a veteran QB in the QB room. I do think this is bad for EJ.
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2015 Author Posted September 8, 2015 We gave up a 5th and a 7thnot exactly. They traded a 2015 5th and a 2016 7th. They got a 2015 6th in return plus Cassel.
stevewin Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 If Cassel is seriously the number 2 QB, this will cut down on EJ's reps in practice, which is not insignificant. Even if EJ is the long-term #2 in case of injury to Tyrod, the practice part will slow down his development. Although maybe running the scout team gives you more reps? I was thinking the same thing. Not sure how running the scout team is the best preparation to jump from 3rd string to starter if TT goes down
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 rex has been consistent in saying he was going to have 3 QBs on the roster. And he does. They never said EJ was the #2. We all assumed that when Cassel was released, but there were multiple national reporters who kept saying vets released Saturday are likely to be re-signed Tuesday. If it was the plan all along, I doubt behind closed doors EJ is surprised. I do not think they told EJ on Saturday-you are going to be the backup. Then 3 days later said - just kidding! Everything since Saturday was done for cap reasons and they never deviated from the original plan of 3 QBs. Yep. Plus, maybe more important, is that it was probably less than a 50/50 chance they got Cassel back after he was released. They didn't know he wouldn't sign. They didn't know some team without a good #2 would offer him $2m a year which he would have taken for sure. It was a calculated move proven by the Tanney signing and the fact they had to outbid Houston on escalators. I assume they likely considered Cassel to be gone with a decent chance of him returning but no real assurance whatsoever. We gave up a 5th and a 7th And got a 6th back right?
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Rex Ryan: "We Like Our Three Quarterbacks" (1:12)The Bills head coach talks about bringing back Matt Cassel and what he adds to the quarterback room.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @ChrisBrownBills: The #Bills have re-signed QB Matt Cassel. TE Nick O'Leary released to make room on roster. More at http://t.co/tgttAMwjdw. had to get his price tag down
YoloinOhio Posted September 8, 2015 Author Posted September 8, 2015 @SalSports: Roman: Cassel best suited at this moment to be backup QB. But we feel confident in EJ. See where it goes down the road.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @viccarucci #Bills QB coach David Lee says Matt Cassel "almost got" the starting job that went to Tyrod Taylor.
Bill from NYC Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Depending on the team 5th through 7th. Hell, the Bills gave up a 7th for Cassel. There are still teams in need for a good QB. When RGIII is deemed unusable and Cousins and McCoy suck in DC, look for an EJ deal to happen. Very true BFFE, but this is not enough to pull the trigger imo. I would want at least a 3rd. And the truth is that the above doesn't say much for EJ.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Maybe you're right, but I don't think this makes TT's leash shorter. And if he's looking over his shoulder, he's an idiot. He needs to work on his game and let the coaches worry about coaching decisions. I think this may actually be beneficial to TT, having a veteran QB in the QB room. I do think this is bad for EJ. Bills might be looking to trade?
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @viccarucci #Bills QB coach David Lee says Matt Cassel "almost got" the starting job that went to Tyrod Taylor. That isn't a ringing endorsement for EJ. When your QB coach doesn't even say that EJ was close to be in the running.
KOKBILLS Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 That isn't a ringing endorsement for EJ. When your QB coach doesn't even say that EJ was close to be in the running. Which should make you thrilled...
Saint Doug Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @viccarucci #Bills QB coach David Lee says Matt Cassel "almost got" the starting job that went to Tyrod Taylor. Geez, he's still ringing that bell?
bobobonators Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I was thinking the same thing. Not sure how running the scout team is the best preparation to jump from 3rd string to starter if TT goes down It appears that the EJ era is over if he's not even the backup QB so the only way I see him being the starter again is if both TT and Cassel go down with injuries or both are complete abominations.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 @MatthewFairburn Bills QB coach David Lee said he doesn't think the team could have been more fair to the three QBs in the competition.
VABills Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Which should make you thrilled... No. I want our QB's to do well. While at times EJ looked good there was times he looked bad. Just like Cassel. but the fact that the QB coach is saying this shouldn't inspire any one to have confidence if EJ is playing. When you're own QB coach basically says he was never in consideration for starting should tell anyone with any common sense all they need to know. Edited September 8, 2015 by VABills
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