TSOL Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season.
FLFan Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Whoa, sorry if I seem cynical guys, don't all jump down my back at once! We all know he wants to be highest paid defensive player. Just make him second highest and he will be happy, no? But you know Whaleys trying to get cute with him, like the FO has done so many times before... Maybe its just me, but I think Whaley and the Bills FO are better qualified to negotiate this deal than you or me. The Bills will want to spend as little as possible, and Dareus will want as much as possible, but there is absolutely no reason to expect this will not get done. Engaging in actual negotiations is not "getting cute".
CountDorkula Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season. This is soooooo easy to do. AmIrite?
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season. anything less than a SB is a failure? Yikes man you are entitled to your expectations but don't you want to enjoy the season?
The Big Cat Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Whoa, sorry if I seem cynical guys, don't all jump down my back at once! We all know he wants to be highest paid defensive player. Just make him second highest and he will be happy, no? But you know Whaleys trying to get cute with him, like the FO has done so many times before... Translation: I'm going to start throwing out wild, baseless, emotionally-charged accusations, and when you guys call me on my bull ****, I'll act like you're the ones that are being unreasonable.
thebandit27 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season. I'm confused. You're sick of Whaley, but he's apparently built a roster that's good enough for you to expect a Superbowl this season?
Freddie's Dead Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 They are of course playing gam.....er, negotiating with Dareus. But the (allegedly) $90M opening offer was WAY below market value. He's going to cost three bills (>$100M) at least. Anything less than that, he should fire his agent and hire Spencer Strasmore's team.
Snorom Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season. you're really annoying. gonna be ignoring lots of posters.. Tired of the ax grinding crap being spewed by some Edited September 9, 2015 by Snorom
CountDorkula Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I'm confused. You're sick of Whaley, but he's apparently built a roster that's good enough for you to expect a Superbowl this season? I was gona go this route, but i went the just find a 20MM QB and be done with it instead .
FLFan Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Let's see, got pretty cutsie with Matt Cassel in the last few days, bet if you were to sit down with him for a beer his story of the events would be a little different than his official media position. Then, what was the report that they offered Darius a few weeks ago, 8-9 million? That's nowhere in the ballpark of what he wants, or what he's worth. Your math is off. The report was $90 m over 6 years. I would bet that Overdorf knows that is a lowball. Its called negotiation. Translation: I'm going to start throwing out wild, baseless, emotionally-charged accusations, and when you guys call me on my bull ****, I'll act like you're the ones that are being unreasonable. Nailed it.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I'm getting sick of Doug Whaley, he can field an all pro Roster all he wants but until he nails the 20 million dollar QB question, what good is it. All these "great" receivers? What good are they without someone to get them the ball? A top four D? Awesome, as long as we can get more than 3 field goals a game. So sue me for being cynical, and flame me all ya want. Anything less than a SB is a failed season. Sarcasm font? We don't know if he has a QB or not. The guy has as many regular season starts as you and I. We are supposed to be mad that he has been acquiring top tier talent? Should they just stop adding guys until they are set at QB? Is that the plan and the best course of action? Don't get Harvin because you have no QB? Don't pay Hughes and Dareus because you don't have a QB? This is either the worst idea ever or we need the sarcasm font. Edited September 9, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
TSOL Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I was originally commenting on, basically just get r done type of comment in regards to Whaley signing Darius. I'm not trying to act like any of you guys are being unreasonable. I'm not trying to defend my position against ten of you highly reasonable posters. My fandom is of an emotional nature, not as scientific as most of you guys responding to me now. With the events of the last few days, I have flashbacks of last year, losing to a 2-14 team while playoffs were on the line, in my view, because we had a QB playing for us, with one foot out the door and no loyalty to the Buffalo Bills or WNY whatsoever. And now the FO is putting us in a similar situation again, with Cassel. It's why I say I'm getting tired of Whaleys shenanagins, why I just want them to get it done with Marcel. We're going to have to make him at least the second highest paid defensive player in the league to make him happy, so just do and lets get on with the season.
Billsrhody Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Glenn was not all that and a bag of chips last year. (To be fair, no one was) I think Roman wants to see if he gets pre-2014 Glenn or 2015 Glenn before signing off on the "pay him!" chit. Call me crazy but I could see our starting tackles next year as Henderson and Kouandjio. They might be preparing to let Glenn walk.
TSOL Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 If Whaley pisses Darius off enough with lowball offers, and he goes to the open market, you know someone will give him 14 million a year...
Nanker Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Translation: I'm going to start throwing out wild, baseless, emotionally-charged accusations, and when you guys call me on my bull ****, I'll act like you're the ones that are being unreasonable. Same M O as Gatorman over on PPP. Edited September 11, 2015 by Nanker
Heitz Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I was originally commenting on, basically just get r done type of comment in regards to Whaley signing Darius. I'm not trying to act like any of you guys are being unreasonable. I'm not trying to defend my position against ten of you highly reasonable posters. My fandom is of an emotional nature, not as scientific as most of you guys responding to me now. With the events of the last few days, I have flashbacks of last year, losing to a 2-14 team while playoffs were on the line, in my view, because we had a QB playing for us, with one foot out the door and no loyalty to the Buffalo Bills or WNY whatsoever. And now the FO is putting us in a similar situation again, with Cassel. It's why I say I'm getting tired of Whaleys shenanagins, why I just want them to get it done with Marcel. We're going to have to make him at least the second highest paid defensive player in the league to make him happy, so just do and lets get on with the season. So we shouldn't have signed a vet back up QB because he has no loyalty to WNY (whatever that really means)? At least we know what you'll complain about after Marcell's deal gets done. I'm amazed that some people can always find something to B word about...
RCOHEN13 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Extend Dareus before the rest of the league notices how much he's worth. the whole planet knows what he's worth.... On open market he will get Watt/ Suh money . With moves we just made to shed alot of cap, just give the guy the what he wants... He's the key to this D and also very young. More important to have him signed long term that rest of D
Lucien K Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I agree with you on Cordy Glenn, I see Dareus, Bradham and Gilmore as the priorities with Cordy as the potential odd man out with Seantrel and Cyrus on the roster. At least there would be somewhat of a logical plan unlike Levitre.
The Big Cat Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 I was originally commenting on, basically just get r done type of comment in regards to Whaley signing Darius. I'm not trying to act like any of you guys are being unreasonable. I'm not trying to defend my position against ten of you highly reasonable posters. My fandom is of an emotional nature, not as scientific as most of you guys responding to me now. With the events of the last few days, I have flashbacks of last year, losing to a 2-14 team while playoffs were on the line, in my view, because we had a QB playing for us, with one foot out the door and no loyalty to the Buffalo Bills or WNY whatsoever. And now the FO is putting us in a similar situation again, with Cassel. It's why I say I'm getting tired of Whaleys shenanagins, why I just want them to get it done with Marcel. We're going to have to make him at least the second highest paid defensive player in the league to make him happy, so just do and lets get on with the season. The Whaley-hater crowd has zero credibility, IMO. Sorry, bud.
Nanker Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 $90,000,000 over 6 years is $15million a year. Not sure if Dareus walks away from that he'll be signing elsewhere for $14 million.
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